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From: ruben on 21 Dec 2009 23:10 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:33:46 -0800, jonathan wrote: >> had.... I'm more disillusioned with Manual at this point than Minya. > > I have no use for either one at this point. Don't get me wrong . . . I > like Omar, but he's changed. The Omar who took the job used to talk > about things that the Omar today doesn't talk about. I don't think he > ever understood how to deal with the media, and I think ultimately it's > been his undoing. You might be very well correct here. I think the Wilpon's have not helped him at all. It's not just the media. Its the middle of the night firing of Randolf, the over dependence on older players like Green, Alou and Lo Duca in attempts to spin instant gold. Ruben
From: ruben on 21 Dec 2009 23:18 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:33:46 -0800, jonathan wrote: >> Overall 3.64 ERA and not much success in AA. Definitely seems to need >> AA seasoning but his clock is ticking at age 22. 12 base runners per >> nine innings isn't great. > > How is his clock ticking at 22? I know you think all pitchers should > peak at 18, but we can't all be Dwight Gooden. His peripheral numbers > were very good. He dominated in Brooklyn. I don't know what you were > watching. I expect him to come back to AA and pitch very well. He > shouldn't get any higher then Buffalo this year, but I'm afraid the Mets > will rush him and hurt his development. Ok - He is first going to enter AA at 23 which projects him on the ML level for 25...which is not insane. That is a little old for a rookie, although not crazy old. He needs to really steamroll though double A, IMO to show me that he is destined to be a genuine front line starter. If he is in AA again next season at 24, his likelihood of becoming a good front line pitcher, IMO, greatly diminishes. That is what I mean that time is ticking. He needs to establish himself this season, IMO, on the minor league level. Ruben
From: ruben on 21 Dec 2009 23:20 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:33:46 -0800, jonathan wrote: > Gee, maybe they > can deal Francouer and Oliver Perez for Zack Greinke. Strangely enough, I'm not certain that is a good trade. I doubt Greinke would pitch well in NY Ruben
From: ruben on 21 Dec 2009 23:27 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:02:39 -0800, jonathan wrote: > At what point in the 10+ years I have posted in this newsgroup have you > ever seen me argue to sign aging free agents? >>>BLINK<<< You got me there...
From: jonathan on 21 Dec 2009 23:27
On Dec 21, 11:20 pm, ru...(a)mrbrklyn.com wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:33:46 -0800, jonathan wrote: > > Gee, maybe they > > can deal Francouer and Oliver Perez for Zack Greinke. > > Strangely enough, I'm not certain that is a good trade. I doubt Greinke > would pitch well in NY > > Ruben I agree. He knows what FIP is. Dan Warthen would be completely confused. He'd want him to just try to 'throw hard'. |