From: HTP on 29 Sep 2009 18:46
On Sep 29, 2:15 pm, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:
If youre going to respond to someones comment, you shouldnt delete
what they said. Its not clear as to what youre responding.
> People today don't go to baseball games to watch good baseball. Heck,
> they wouldn't know good baseball if it smacked them in the head. These
> people go to games for a social event. They shop in the mall that the
> baseball stadium has become. They show their ignorance every time a
> pitcher steps off the mound and yell balk. They look at the short stop
> and second basemen with runners on base and see them talking behind
> their gloves and think they are gossiping. They think homeruns and
> fireworks make for a well played game. These people would never see a
> missed cut off man, a failure to cover a base,or any other missed
> The ignorant fan looks at these guys wearing chains and earrings and
> think they are cool fashion stars. They think guys pitching to ERAS over
> 4 are good pitchers. The fans of today couldn't dissect an ugly swing
> from a sweet swing. They pay 50 dollars for a jersey of some guy on
> steroids and wear it proudly. They love these chest thumping
> narcissistic out of touch ballplayers. They wouldn't know the meaning of
> respect or class.
You have no way of knowing any of this stuff.
I hope i never turn into you. You whine about being bad-mouthed here
and then you turn around launch a stream of overgeneralized nonsense
I've argued with alot of people here, and sometimes lines of decorum
were crossed but i never really came to dislike any of them
personally. But you really are my least favorite ASBCR person ever,
because youre bitter AND stupid AND thinskinned.
> The ignoramuses sit there and chat on their cell phones nonsense. They
> text message meaningless inane comments back and forth. They twitter
> about their last trip to the bathroom.
Are you so ancient and out of touch that youve completely forgotten
what it is to be young and the need to be part of a group? What they
do is completely normal. You did the same thing when you were a kid
(unless you were a loser outcast, which wouldnt surprise me, and thats
not meant as a personal attack, just a guess based on my
observations). You sat around the soda fountain, or a parked car, or a
hay wagon and prattled on endlessly about whatever inane and
meaningless thought that came into your mind. You talked about music
and movies and sports and girls and school and cars and hobbies and
girls and tv and toys and friends and girls and boobies.... But that
didnt make you an ignoramous, and these kids today arent either. Its
called being a kid.
> Baseball today far cry from yesterday.......
Everything changes (except for the fact that old guys will think the
world was better when they were young).
From: HTP on 29 Sep 2009 18:49
On Sep 29, 2:29 pm, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:
> Baseball and its future is open for debate. But years ago baseball used
> to be the only game in town. Kids growing up used to play the game in
> little league or on the street corner. Everybody played from the
> athletic kid to the nerd. They played everyday from dawn till dusk. Most
> kids today play other sports, if they play at all. Most kids today walk
> around with cell phones talking or texting nonsense. If they play
> anything today it's video games not sports or baseball....
> Years ago you could identify with your team because the players usually
> stuck with their team for their whole career. They weren't making
> zillions of dollars. Heck, most players had off season jobs. They played
> the game well fundamentally. Selfish players were looked at with scorn
> not admiration.
> Today the world is upside down where the irresponsible are rewarded and
> the responsible are penalized. But that is another story. Baseball is no
> exception to the overall downward spiral of this country. Oh. yes I
> forgot we have NASCAR and wrestling, many people follow these 2
> "exciting" sports, millions in fact. This has taken away from baseball
> as well....
> Most people today find the game of baseball too SLOW. They live in a
> world of immediate gratification and clicking on a computer screen.....
Do you have any evidence at all to back up any of this? A study
From: HTP on 29 Sep 2009 18:57
On Sep 29, 2:48 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "john smith" <eddyg...(a)msn.com> wrote in message
> > Baseball and its future is open for debate. But years ago baseball used
> > to be the only game in town. Kids growing up used to play the game in
> > little league or on the street corner. Everybody played from the
> > athletic kid to the nerd. They played everyday from dawn till dusk. Most
> > kids today play other sports, if they play at all. Most kids today walk
> > around with cell phones talking or texting nonsense. If they play
> > anything today it's video games not sports or baseball....
> > Years ago you could identify with your team because the players usually
> > stuck with their team for their whole career. They weren't making
> > zillions of dollars. Heck, most players had off season jobs. They played
> > the game well fundamentally. Selfish players were looked at with scorn
> > not admiration.
> > Today the world is upside down where the irresponsible are rewarded and
> > the responsible are penalized. But that is another story. Baseball is no
> > exception to the overall downward spiral of this country. Oh. yes I
> > forgot we have NASCAR and wrestling, many people follow these 2
> > "exciting" sports, millions in fact. This has taken away from baseball
> > as well....
> > Most people today find the game of baseball too SLOW. They live in a
> > world of immediate gratification and clicking on a computer screen.....
> All Accurate! I had a morning paper route. My buddy and I would deliver
> papers and wait for it to get light so we could start taking BP.
> Don't forget UFC! I sell my place out and hear more yelling and enthusiasm
> for UFC than any other event.- Hide quoted text -
People forget that boxing used to be the #1 spectator sport in the
country. Boxing and horseracing. And they were both very corrupt.
From: john smith on 29 Sep 2009 19:52
My dear fellow poster Henry, You mistake my general disdain for the
world we live in with personal attacks on posters in here. You see I
never made a personal attack on anyone in this group and I never will. I
just disagree sometimes and that is still ok to do that in in this
I never did nor ever long to be part of a group especially if it means
selling out my soul. This country was built on the individual and his or
her's own creativity. Only out of the individual and one's creativity
did civilization advance....
Those who choose to be part of a group and just go along with what is
popular are doomed to destruction. Just because something wrong and
immoral becomes the norm doesn't make it right. I don't follow blindly
anyone. I don't seek your approval and couldn't care less that you
dislike me. That is your perogative....
To call all my arguments about the current state of baseball and the
world completely unfounded is complete naivetÃ©. I see a game and
much more a country disintegrating into a third world fiasco. I see a
badly corrupted populous and youth with no morals.
Every civilization, no matter how advanced has eventually destroyed
themselves. The sad fact about this most people in these previous
generations didn't see their prospective downfalls coming. They were too
corrupted, they all became the same, gutless yes men, part of "the
group". They all thought alike and their very existence became a
stagnation eventually leading to their complete destruction...
If you can't see all the moral decay in the world today and the hopeless
leadership we are given, then you are lost..
It is funny, the people who claim to be tolerant in this country and in
the world today seem to be the least tolerant. I am not a MUMMY, I don't
blindly follow corrupt immoral men just to be part of some so called
Thanks Danny for seeing my point of view about the world today. We are
close to the same age and see eye to eye on a whole lot of
things......We know the most important thing about life is THE TRUTH.
The truth is all I seek in my daily life. I am far from perfect loaded
with numerous faults. But their is one thing I strive for in life and
that is the simple TRUTH. The real Truth. Not a distorted truth that
fits into my way of life at the present time. No the Truth, the most
important thing in life....
Oh and Henry don't worry about posting protocol. People in here who read
what I am saying generally get the point. You don't need to be a rocket
scientist to figure it out. Now I know I can count on you for some
vicious response, so go ahead, you think it will effect me or the TRUTH,
I think not....
From: john smith on 29 Sep 2009 20:26
My Study to back things up on irresponsible people being rewarded:
Mortgages being given to people who could never pay them. Bail out money
being given to wall street bankers who gambled on derivatives and these
mortgages. Politicians who have lifetime positions and cushy health
plans and pensions who don't even read bills they vote on....Illegal
aliens who come here illegally and work as slaves and walk into
emergency rooms and receive free health care which every other
responsible CITIZEN pays for. Employers of these illegal aliens who
profit immensely without paying any taxes. Parasitic lawyers who sue
doctors on every little thing which cause millions if not billions of
unnecessary tests on people that cause health insurance rates to
skyrocket. Those are just a few of the irresponsible people and things
they have done to destroy this country....
The responsible people are the taxpayers who get screwed paying for all
these irresponsible people with hard earned tax dollars...