From: RJA on
On Sep 29, 12:46 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:46 am, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 27, 1:57 am, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > They may be the best team on paper, but they *are* the Cubs!
>
> > And the Browns are the Cubs of the NFL.
>
> Not to get too deep into this, but one thing that sets the Cubs apart
> is that they actually try to put together a winning team. They are a
> major player in free agent markets, they have a huge fan base and
> potential revenue stream. They should win alot more than they do. I
> dont see the Browns as the NFL equivilent.

The Browns do all of those things as well, they just manage not to
make it to the big game, much like the Cubs. Along the way, they've
had big games and playoff games that slipped away due to freak things
and improbabilities, kinda like the Cubs and Bartman. They're the
closest thing to the Cubs in the NFL.

From: Bob Braun on

"RJA" <agentvaughn(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9ae9683e-51b7-4c6b-8847-2a9dfb3aac6a(a)d34g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 29, 12:46 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:46 am, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 27, 1:57 am, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > They may be the best team on paper, but they *are* the Cubs!
>
> > And the Browns are the Cubs of the NFL.
>
> Not to get too deep into this, but one thing that sets the Cubs apart
> is that they actually try to put together a winning team. They are a
> major player in free agent markets, they have a huge fan base and
> potential revenue stream. They should win alot more than they do. I
> dont see the Browns as the NFL equivilent.

The Browns do all of those things as well, they just manage not to
make it to the big game, much like the Cubs. Along the way, they've
had big games and playoff games that slipped away due to freak things
and improbabilities, kinda like the Cubs and Bartman. They're the
closest thing to the Cubs in the NFL.
*************************************
Plonk!

We don't have Mike Brown.

You've become a troll.


From: JustTom on
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT), tom dunne
<dunnetg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I think that players want to go to successful teams, and will play
>under disciplinarian coaches and managers as long as the organization
>is well run and gives them a chance to win.

No finer example of that than Coughlan. When he started winning
qiuickly at expansion Jacksonville, he was revered. Then when they
started stumbling, all they could talk about was what a PITA he and
his rules were.

Move to giants, and during the early bad times, all I remember is
players complaining about not wearing sunglasses indoors and other
such nonsense and how nobody wanted to play for him. Now with that
superbowl under their belt, they don't seem to have any trouble at
all finding guys to play for him.

I remember thinking when he got canned that he would be perfect fit in
the undisciplined losing bengals camp, but they took Marvin instead.
Was a bit bummed about it.
From: JustTom on
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:22:19 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxinfla(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>I have wanted them to bring Marty back, since 1999. We must now rebuild
>from the Savage/Crennel years. Is Mangini the right guy? Early returns are
>bad............real bad.
>

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/joe_posnanski/09/29/mangini/


From: John Kasupski on
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:37:03 +0000, John Kasupski
<kc2hmz(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:30:26 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxinfla(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Don't discount LaRussa in a short series.
>
>I've never thought he was a very good in-game tactician. He overmanages
>preposterously, and I wish I had a $5 bill for every time I've seen him shoot
>himself in the foot (so to speak) over the years. This is especially true of how
>he handles his bullpen.
>
>Against that...he does know when it's time to go get his starting pitcher.
>
>Where he really excels, though, is in getting the best performance out of his
>players day after day, inning after inning. His players play for him. If they
>don't, then they stick around St. Louis very long. Just ask Rolen.
>
>While I'm on the subject of the Cardinals - it's hard to question Homer Bailey's
>work late this season and say it's because he's pitched against teams like the
>Pirates after tonight, when he limited the division champs to one run over seven
>innings, striking out seven while walking only one. He even had himself a base
>hit. He's now 5-1, 1.89 in his last eight starts.
>
>Remember a few months ago when Danny was insisting the Reds needed to stick
>bailey in the rotation and let him pitch? Well, after Volquez got hurt, that's
>pretty much what they did, and now we're seeing the results.
>
>OK, two of the Ks were Piniero (who, incidentally, really looked like Bob Gibson
>out there for the Cardinals tonight serving up a pair of dingers to Jay Bruce
>and giving up seven runs in six innings of work). But he fanned Holliday to end
>the first with a runner in scoring position, fanned DeRosa with runners on
>second and third to end the fourth and rang him up again to end the sixth, and
>the only run he allowed scored on a sac fly by Albert The Great.
>
>This season has sucked for a lot of us, but some day a few years from now when
>he's just blanked the Cubs to win the final game of the NLCS for the Reds, we
>may look back on it someday as the year that Homer Bailey came of age as a major
>league pitcher.
>
>JK

Judging from this Esquire article by Charles P. Pierce, I'm not the only one who
isn't convinced of TLR's supposed genius:

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/opinion/tony-la-russa-playoffs-100209?src=rss

JK

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