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From: RJA on 13 May 2010 11:33 On May 13, 10:36 am, David Short <David.No.Sho...(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote: > On 5/13/2010 9:50 AM, JustTom wrote: > > > I guess one of the things to keep an eye on is how many innings Leake > > has under his belt by then. I'm pretty sure I've read that he's > > going to be limited to around 150-165 this year (Chapman as well). > > It's going to be a tough sell shutting him down if we're still hanging > > around in August/September. > > I've written that should be a goal for the reds, but I don't think I've > EVER seen anybody with the club say something like that. If I'm wrong > and somebody has a quote from a club official acknowledging that > limiting Leake and Chapmans innings pitches would be a good thing for > the franchise long term....please share the quote with me. > > It would represent a real sea-change in the way they operate. > > dfs http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/05/02/leake-problem/
From: JustTom on 13 May 2010 12:02 On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:36:17 -0400, David Short <David.No.Short.(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote: >On 5/13/2010 9:50 AM, JustTom wrote: >> I guess one of the things to keep an eye on is how many innings Leake >> has under his belt by then. I'm pretty sure I've read that he's >> going to be limited to around 150-165 this year (Chapman as well). >> It's going to be a tough sell shutting him down if we're still hanging >> around in August/September. > >I've written that should be a goal for the reds, but I don't think I've >EVER seen anybody with the club say something like that. If I'm wrong >and somebody has a quote from a club official acknowledging that >limiting Leake and Chapmans innings pitches would be a good thing for >the franchise long term....please share the quote with me. > >It would represent a real sea-change in the way they operate. > Leake http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/05/02/leake-problem/ Chapman http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/03/17/3-chapman-questions-for-jocketty/ They both tap dance around a specific number now, but I swear when spring training broke I saw an article somewhere with the specific 150-165 number for Leake and they said they'd be similar with Chapman, but I can't find the article now.
From: HTP on 13 May 2010 13:02 On May 13, 6:50 am, t...(a)nomail.please (JustTom) wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010 09:06:08 -0400, David Short > > <David.No.Sho...(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote: > > >I'll pay attention this weekend in the way that I always do, but I'm not > >really interested. We'll talk about that in July. > > Yep, around the all star break is when we seem to swoon, or > whenever our first big west coast trip to LA comes around. I think alot of that is tied to poor performances against the A.L. during the interleague portions of the schedule. The injuries seem to mount up at about that time. So far, we're really only missing Dickerson and everyone else is at 90+%. The schedule looks fairly soft for the next couple weeks. The Reds have to make some serious hay during that time. Then the schedule gets brutal in June and stays that way through the all-star game. Theres a west coast road trip to seattle and oakland. Just before the break is a very long trip to wrigley, nyc and philly. thats the real test. > > I guess one of the things to keep an eye on is how many innings Leake > has under his belt by then. I'm pretty sure I've read that he's > going to be limited to around 150-165 this year (Chapman as well). > It's going to be a tough sell shutting him down if we're still hanging > around in August/September.
From: HTP on 13 May 2010 13:05 On May 13, 7:36 am, David Short <David.No.Sho...(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote: > On 5/13/2010 9:50 AM, JustTom wrote: > > > I guess one of the things to keep an eye on is how many innings Leake > > has under his belt by then. I'm pretty sure I've read that he's > > going to be limited to around 150-165 this year (Chapman as well). > > It's going to be a tough sell shutting him down if we're still hanging > > around in August/September. > > I've written that should be a goal for the reds, but I don't think I've > EVER seen anybody with the club say something like that. If I'm wrong > and somebody has a quote from a club official acknowledging that > limiting Leake and Chapmans innings pitches would be a good thing for > the franchise long term....please share the quote with me. > > It would represent a real sea-change in the way they operate. > > dfs Well, i think if we have shot at the postseason come september, and its possible this year, then all of that long-term thinking has to be scrapped. But otherwise, yes, dont rack up the innings on those guys if the club aint gonna win anyway.
From: RJA on 13 May 2010 13:17
On May 13, 1:05 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 13, 7:36 am, David Short > > > > > > <David.No.Sho...(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote: > > On 5/13/2010 9:50 AM, JustTom wrote: > > > > I guess one of the things to keep an eye on is how many innings Leake > > > has under his belt by then. I'm pretty sure I've read that he's > > > going to be limited to around 150-165 this year (Chapman as well). > > > It's going to be a tough sell shutting him down if we're still hanging > > > around in August/September. > > > I've written that should be a goal for the reds, but I don't think I've > > EVER seen anybody with the club say something like that. If I'm wrong > > and somebody has a quote from a club official acknowledging that > > limiting Leake and Chapmans innings pitches would be a good thing for > > the franchise long term....please share the quote with me. > > > It would represent a real sea-change in the way they operate. > > > dfs > > Well, i think if we have shot at the postseason come september, and > its possible this year, then all of that long-term thinking has to be > scrapped. But otherwise, yes, dont rack up the innings on those guys > if the club aint gonna win anyway.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The thing is, they have an opportunity to skip him on Saturday because of today's off-day. You can't do that with the way he's pitching, so I wonder what the plan is moving forward. |