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BY JOE STRAUSS | Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:36 am


The St. Louis Cardinals continue to press for ways to fortify their starting
rotation. Kyle Lohse is scheduled to begin a rehab assignment Monday in
Memphis. And, general manager John Mozeliak reportedly has made clear the
Cardinals' interest in Houston Astros ace Roy Oswalt, a popular figure to
many within the Cardinals clubhouse.

Talks between the Astros and Phillies have apparently stalled over an option
in Oswalt's contract. In contrast, Cardinals ownership has publicly stated
its willingness to absorb salary for a player it can retain beyond this
season.

Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. returned to St. Louis for this series and
apparently has not blanched at Oswalt's $16 million option for 2012.

Oswalt previously has informed the Cardinals that he would be willing to
restructure his option to facilitate a deal to St. Louis, according to a
source.

On Wednesday, vice president of scouting and player development Jeff Luhnow
declined to call top pitching prospect Shelby Miller untouchable in a deal.

Talks involving Oswalt are not believed close to culminating in a trade with
any team, Astros owner Drayton MacLane told MLB.com Wednesday. However, the
Cardinals represent a potential match for an ace-quality pitcher signed
through next year.

Oswalt so far insists any team that acquires him also assume a $16 million
club option for 2012.

Manager Tony La Russa insisted Tuesday that the organization's wish list is
unchanged despite its quick start to the second half.

The Cardinals won their eighth straight game Wednesday in a 5-1 beating of
the Phillies, who continue to recede within the more muscular National
League East.

The Cardinals have had interest in Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher Dan Haren --
traded by the Cardinals to the Oakland A's for Mark Mulder in December 2004.
However, the Diamondbacks are pressing for significant talent in return for
Haren, whose contract guarantees him a minimum $28.5 million after this
season.

Oswalt is due $16 million in addition to a $16 million club option for 2012
that comes with a $2 million buyout. But since Oswalt enjoys the right to
refuse any trade, he can use the option as leverage in approving any deal.

The Cardinals suddenly possess a surplus of outfielders when Ryan Ludwick
(calf strain) returns from a rehab assignment.

Jon Jay and Allen Craig have been particularly impressive in Ludwick's
absence. With Holliday and center fielder Colby Rasmus entrenched in the
team's plans and Ludwick under control through next season, the club could
include one of its younger outfielders in a deal with young pitching.

The Cardinals last July packaged top prospect Brett Wallace in the Holliday
deal barely a year after he became the club's first-round selection in the
2008 draft. The Cardinals selected Miller, a prep pitcher from Texas, in the
first round of the 2009 draft.

The club is hopeful that Lohse might return to the rotation next month, less
than three months after requiring surgery to alleviate compression of his
right forearm.

There is less certainty regarding Brad Penny, whose throwing program
following a May muscle tear near his right shoulder is currently shut down.

Oswalt lists the Cardinals among his preferred landing spots.

He has also told acquaintances with ties to the club that he would be
willing to be more flexible regarding his 2012 option.

Oswalt, 32, carries a career 143-81 record that includes a 6-11 record and
3.12 ERA this season. He has made at least 30 starts the last six seasons.
Oswalt also is 4-0 in eight postseason appearances, including two wins over
the Cardinals in the 2005 National League Championship Series.

From: Tom on 24 Jul 2010 14:19
On Jul 23, 11:43 am, "A" <a...(a)att.net> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_5701c5e4...
>
> BY JOE STRAUSS | Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:36 am
>
> The St. Louis Cardinals continue to press for ways to fortify their starting
> rotation. Kyle Lohse is scheduled to begin a rehab assignment Monday in
> Memphis. And, general manager John Mozeliak reportedly has made clear the
> Cardinals' interest in Houston Astros ace Roy Oswalt, a popular figure to
> many within the Cardinals clubhouse.
>
> Talks between the Astros and Phillies have apparently stalled over an option
> in Oswalt's contract. In contrast, Cardinals ownership has publicly stated
> its willingness to absorb salary for a player it can retain beyond this
> season.
>
> Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. returned to St. Louis for this series and
> apparently has not blanched at Oswalt's $16 million option for 2012.
>
> Oswalt previously has informed the Cardinals that he would be willing to
> restructure his option to facilitate a deal to St. Louis, according to a
> source.
>
> On Wednesday, vice president of scouting and player development Jeff Luhnow
> declined to call top pitching prospect Shelby Miller untouchable in a deal.
>
> Talks involving Oswalt are not believed close to culminating in a trade with
> any team, Astros owner Drayton MacLane told MLB.com Wednesday. However, the
> Cardinals represent a potential match for an ace-quality pitcher signed
> through next year.
>
> Oswalt so far insists any team that acquires him also assume a $16 million
> club option for 2012.
>
> Manager Tony La Russa insisted Tuesday that the organization's wish list is
> unchanged despite its quick start to the second half.
>
> The Cardinals won their eighth straight game Wednesday in a 5-1 beating of
> the Phillies, who continue to recede within the more muscular National
> League East.
>
> The Cardinals have had interest in Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher Dan Haren --  
> traded by the Cardinals to the Oakland A's for Mark Mulder in December 2004.
> However, the Diamondbacks are pressing for significant talent in return for
> Haren, whose contract guarantees him a minimum $28.5 million after this
> season.
>
> Oswalt is due $16 million in addition to a $16 million club option for 2012
> that comes with a $2 million buyout. But since Oswalt enjoys the right to
> refuse any trade, he can use the option as leverage in approving any deal..
>
> The Cardinals suddenly possess a surplus of outfielders when Ryan Ludwick
> (calf strain) returns from a rehab assignment.
>
> Jon Jay and Allen Craig have been particularly impressive in Ludwick's
> absence. With Holliday and center fielder Colby Rasmus entrenched in the
> team's plans and Ludwick under control through next season, the club could
> include one of its younger outfielders in a deal with young pitching.
>
> The Cardinals last July packaged top prospect Brett Wallace in the Holliday
> deal barely a year after he became the club's first-round selection in the
> 2008 draft. The Cardinals selected Miller, a prep pitcher from Texas, in the
> first round of the 2009 draft.
>
> The club is hopeful that Lohse might return to the rotation next month, less
> than three months after requiring surgery to alleviate compression of his
> right forearm.
>
> There is less certainty regarding Brad Penny, whose throwing program
> following a May muscle tear near his right shoulder is currently shut down.
>
> Oswalt lists the Cardinals among his preferred landing spots.
>
> He has also told acquaintances with ties to the club that he would be
> willing to be more flexible regarding his 2012 option.
>
> Oswalt, 32, carries a career 143-81 record that includes a 6-11 record and
> 3.12 ERA this season. He has made at least 30 starts the last six seasons..
> Oswalt also is 4-0 in eight postseason appearances, including two wins over
> the Cardinals in the 2005 National League Championship Series.

What a classy header, Roy.

The Cardinals should pursue Dan Haren long term.

Tom
From: CardsFan on 25 Jul 2010 14:36

"Tom" <drsoong(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

The Cardinals should pursue Dan Haren long term.

Tom
______________

The only advantage I see in Haren is $, since he makes about half of what
Oswalt makes. That's a lot, of course, about $8M. Oswalt is 2 years older,
but I think the better of the two.

Looks like Brad Penny was a bad bet and will be one year and out. I expect
the release of Suppan when/if Lohse returns to the starting rotation. I
don't think the Cards can make the playoffs with Suppan and Hawksworth as
the #4 and #5 starters.

I see Ludwick is back. What's up with David Freese?

AJM


From: A on 26 Jul 2010 00:11
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"CardsFan" <me(a)here.com> wrote in message
news:i2i07i$d3g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Tom" <drsoong(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:9e39c499-4a77-4d83-bc0f-e5c600929021(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> The Cardinals should pursue Dan Haren long term.

Too late! Haren was just traded to the Angels, so he is out of the
NL.

> Tom
> ______________
>
> The only advantage I see in Haren is $, since he makes about half of what
> Oswalt makes. That's a lot, of course, about $8M. Oswalt is 2 years
> older, but I think the better of the two.
>
> Looks like Brad Penny was a bad bet and will be one year and out. I
> expect the release of Suppan when/if Lohse returns to the starting
> rotation. I don't think the Cards can make the playoffs with Suppan and
> Hawksworth as the #4 and #5 starters.
>
> I see Ludwick is back. What's up with David Freese?
< AJM

Freese broke his L big toe (July 18) while working out to repair his
*other* injury to his R ankle that put him on the DL.
He definitely needed TT (tough toes); might be back before the end of
July.
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/wsfb/news/injuries.jsp#team117

Nobody yet knows when Ottavino (P), Penny (P), or Stavinoha (LF) might
return.
Lohse (P) maybe sometime in Aug.; he threw a simulated game on July
21.


From: John Czar on 27 Jul 2010 00:27
On Jul 25, 11:11 pm, "A" <a...(a)att.net> wrote:
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>

Apparently, DeWitt has gone so far as to offer BRENDAN RYAN and others
for Oswalt.

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