From: Bob Braun on

"john smith" <eddygdvd(a)msn.com> wrote in message
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> Why such a lack of interest this year? Too busy spinning them Mitch
> Miller discs?

No, actually I've been doing talk radio, 1am-5am. We have sports talk
starting in the evening time slot next month. The only solid block of music
will be 5am-5pm.

The Reds vacated Florida, I have zero interest. I was surprised how many
others feel the same way. As I predicted they have the lowest attendance in
the Cactus League. Uncle Bob screwed the pooch, and he knows it.

I have been mixing it up with AZ people on the air. Even they admit, of the
teams in AZ, the Cleveland/Cincy setup in Goodyear is of least interest.

Of course, I'm just as guilty. I didn't attend a single spring training
game this year.


From: David Short on

"john smith" <eddygdvd(a)msn.com>
> Record.... I've upped it to 85-77...
I think I've said 86 or so all spring. I'll stick with it.

> Biggest Busts- Aaron Harang and Drew Stubbs
I ahve a bad feeling about Cueto. Nothing I can point to.

> Biggest Surprises- Homer Bailey and Johnny Gommes
I think Reds fans (myself included) will be shocked at what a good player
Scott Rolen is.

> Most wins pitcher- Homer Bailey (17)
That would be nice. Call me stubborn, but I think Harang will have a nice
year with 16 or so wins.

> Best offensive year overall- Joey Votto
Boy, I hope this is Jay Bruce.

> Worst decision by Baker- Hitting Stubbs/Cabrera 1-2, but he has no
> choice.
Baker has a tendancy to be very loyal to guys he percieves as "his guys."

The reds are in a position where they have good young talent ready to step
in at almost every position on the field.

I think Baker will go too long with a slumping regular when somebody is
tearing it up at Louisville.

> good luck , Cincy.....

Yes, indeed.


From: tom dunne on
On Apr 3, 9:14 pm, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:
> Record....
81-81.

> Biggest Busts-
Scott Rolen, by way of injury.

> Biggest Surprises-
Mike Leake.

> Most wins pitcher-
Arroyo.

> Best offensive year overall-
Votto.

> Worst decision by Baker-
Agreeing to manage the Reds in 2008. Second worst will be too many
high-pitch starts by Leake and later Chapman.

I'll be in the stands tomorrow, so I can get a good first-hand look at
the coming apocalypse that apparently is Aaron Harang :)

From: HTP on
On Apr 4, 8:34 am, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "john smith" <eddyg...(a)msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:10677-4BB819DC-7592(a)baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com...
>
> > Why such a  lack of interest this year? Too busy spinning them Mitch
> > Miller discs?
>
> No, actually I've been doing talk radio, 1am-5am.  We have sports talk
> starting in the evening time slot next month.  The only solid block of music
> will be 5am-5pm.
>
> The Reds vacated Florida, I have zero interest.  I was surprised how many
> others feel the same way.  As I predicted they have the lowest attendance in
> the Cactus League.  Uncle Bob screwed the pooch, and he knows it.

Why do you say that Bob "screwed the pooch"? How does low attendance
in 15 march games negatively affect the team enough to offset the
obvious benefits of the improved facilities? And lets be honest, the
Reds werent really a big draw in Sarasota anway. What did they average
there? 5200/game?

I talked to an oldtimer at the Goodyear park who told me that he's
been watching all the teams in ST for years.. He said low attendance
means little because most of the teams had relatively low attendance
the first year or 2 after they move to Arizona. It takes awhile for
folks to adjust, learn the area during the visit, and spread word-of-
mouth back home. Theres always a few stubborn old coots who cant
handle change, but they eventually show up.

Other Reds fans i talked to who had visited both Florida and Arizona
told me the same tale: the facilities in Florida sucked, the weather
didnt always cooperate, and the teams in Florida are spread out too
widely. The convenience of teams clustered around the Phoenix area
meant alot less driving to follow the team. The only out-of-the-way
teams were in Tucson and those parks are closing. Every other park is
within an hour of Goodyear.

I didnt hear a single "why the hell did they have to move all the way
out here!".

>
> I have been mixing it up with AZ people on the air.  Even they admit, of the
> teams in AZ, the Cleveland/Cincy setup in Goodyear is of least interest.

But theyre interested in going to florida to meet watch the Reds?

Obviously not.

The Goodyear setup is on the west end of Phoenix and is probably the
furthest west of the clubs there. The park is about 1 or 2 miles off
the interstate.

The thing is, there is a crapload of undeveloped land immediately
around the park. Theres an airport to one side, and some housing/condo
tracts nearby, but theres plenty of adjacent land to build up with
shopping, restaraunts, or hotels. There may even be room for a
golfcourse. I dont know what plans, if any, the city has for the area.
I'll assume they will do something with the land.

I didnt visit the Reds practice complex, just the Stadium. Its a
short drive away and is a number of ballfields and facilities. People
told me it was very nice.


They could easily move all of the remaining teams to the Phoenix area.
There was definitely alot of undeveloped land to the west of the city

>
> Of course, I'm just as guilty.  I didn't attend a single spring training
> game this year.

I refuse to believe that someone can be a fan of a team for 40 years
and then bail on them just because they move thier spring training
facilities.

Eventually you'll come around and make the trip out west.




From: Gregg on
On Apr 3, 11:59 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "john smith" <eddyg...(a)msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:21759-4BB7E7FF-7588(a)baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com...
>
> > Record.... I've upped it to 85-77...
> > Biggest Busts- Aaron Harang and Drew Stubbs
> > Biggest Surprises- Homer Bailey and Johnny Gommes
> > Most wins pitcher- Homer Bailey (17)
> > Best offensive year overall- Joey Votto
> > Worst decision by Baker- Hitting Stubbs/Cabrera 1-2, but he has no
> > choice.
>
> > good luck , Cincy.....
>
> I haven't heard a bit of Reds baseball for the first time in nearly 50
> years.  If it wasn't for reading it here, I wouldn't even know who was on
> the team.
>
> But, I WILL tune in on Monday.

Ha! Glad I'm not the only one. I've been so caught up with college
hoops and WVa.
But I'm fortunate to be listening to Welsh {sp} on Popo's show here in
the Nati. right now.

It sounds like the same thing the say every year...lol. One thing that
usually predicts big years, though it shouldn't, is that Aaron and
Bronson are in contract years - I look for both to have good years.
I'm concerned about the outfielders producing offense this season. Of
course I hope for a magic season, having said that, I say 81-81

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