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From: JustTom on 8 Apr 2010 17:40 I know it's poor form to reply to your own post, but I think there are at least a couple of you who also go the XM route, so maybe I can save you a buck or two. I just got off the phone with them, after renewing for another year. They did the same half price discount that I've been using for years, which is $77/year for the first radio. Also got the multi-receiver discount on my 2 others to bring them down to $55, and I told them there was no way I was paying a $40 music royalty fee (new this year), so they took it off as well. Total bill for the 3 radios = $187.69 which is quite a reduction from the $427 the original invoice was. Ordinarily, I don't mind paying for products I believe in, but in this case, their business practices are shady, the service has seriously suffered since merging with Syrius, and I just read that the hack CEO just gave himself a $7M bonus even though they are hemoraghing money. They don't care about the price you pay, just the old volume makes it up trick that is never a winning business strategy. So, I'll keep it as long as it is a reasonable price (I consider the roughly $5/month very reasonable. A steal, actually, and cheaper than when I first bought it long ago), and will pay more to the next company that takes over the bankrupted service(if they improve the quality). So, if you have XM radio, the moral is... Never pay the full price! Always demand the half price discount. Don't pay the royalty fee. To do this, subscribe only by the year, and either never let them automatically charge your card, or give them a virtual card that expires before the next year rolls around. hth, tom
From: Bob Braun on 8 Apr 2010 18:35 "JustTom" <tom(a)nomail.please> wrote in message news:4bbe47d1.1067591759(a)newsread.glorb.com... >I know it's poor form to reply to your own post, but I think there are > at least a couple of you who also go the XM route, so maybe I can save > you a buck or two. > > I just got off the phone with them, after renewing for another year. > > They did the same half price discount that I've been using for years, > which is $77/year for the first radio. Also got the multi-receiver > discount on my 2 others to bring them down to $55, and I told them > there was no way I was paying a $40 music royalty fee (new this year), > so they took it off as well. > > Total bill for the 3 radios = $187.69 which is quite a reduction from > the $427 the original invoice was. Ordinarily, I don't mind paying > for products I believe in, but in this case, their business practices > are shady, the service has seriously suffered since merging with > Syrius, and I just read that the hack CEO just gave himself a $7M > bonus even though they are hemoraghing money. They don't care about > the price you pay, just the old volume makes it up trick that is never > a winning business strategy. So, I'll keep it as long as it is a > reasonable price (I consider the roughly $5/month very reasonable. A > steal, actually, and cheaper than when I first bought it long ago), > and will pay more to the next company that takes over the bankrupted > service(if they improve the quality). > > So, if you have XM radio, the moral is... > > Never pay the full price! Always demand the half price discount. > Don't pay the royalty fee. > > To do this, subscribe only by the year, and either never let them > automatically charge your card, or give them a virtual card that > expires before the next year rolls around. > > hth, > tom With proper management, they could be an incredible medium. They have TOTALLY mismanaged it! That's why I put my money behind internet radio.
From: Kommienezuspadt on 8 Apr 2010 20:20 "JustTom" <tom(a)nomail.please> wrote in message news:4bbe47d1.1067591759(a)newsread.glorb.com... >I know it's poor form to reply to your own post, but I think there are > at least a couple of you who also go the XM route, so maybe I can save > you a buck or two. > > I just got off the phone with them, after renewing for another year. > > They did the same half price discount that I've been using for years, > which is $77/year for the first radio. Also got the multi-receiver > discount on my 2 others to bring them down to $55, and I told them > there was no way I was paying a $40 music royalty fee (new this year), > so they took it off as well. > > Total bill for the 3 radios = $187.69 which is quite a reduction from > the $427 the original invoice was. Ordinarily, I don't mind paying > for products I believe in, but in this case, their business practices > are shady, the service has seriously suffered since merging with > Syrius, and I just read that the hack CEO just gave himself a $7M > bonus even though they are hemoraghing money. They don't care about > the price you pay, just the old volume makes it up trick that is never > a winning business strategy. So, I'll keep it as long as it is a > reasonable price (I consider the roughly $5/month very reasonable. A > steal, actually, and cheaper than when I first bought it long ago), > and will pay more to the next company that takes over the bankrupted > service(if they improve the quality). > > So, if you have XM radio, the moral is... > > Never pay the full price! Always demand the half price discount. > Don't pay the royalty fee. > > To do this, subscribe only by the year, and either never let them > automatically charge your card, or give them a virtual card that > expires before the next year rolls around. > > hth, > tom Thanks -- I have 4 of them --- I'll be ready when it's time....
From: JustTom on 9 Apr 2010 08:58 On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:35:21 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxinfla(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >With proper management, they could be an incredible medium. They have >TOTALLY mismanaged it! That's why I put my money behind internet radio. > > Satellite radio reminds me a lot of VOOM. Great idea derailed by pinheads. Much like the pinheads getting ready to kill the golden goose that is the ncaa tournament. I honestly don't see the internet radio thing, but admit haven't really followed any for several years to know how it's evolved. Most of my radio time is in the car or outside. Before XM, I'd anchor a few internet net big band stations (so you're not alone Henry) when I was working from home but the playlists were pretty limited, and until I got cable modem, pretty choppy. XM's huge variety, non-dj commercial free, and seemingly infinite playlists shelved the internet radio for me for a long time. Of course, now that Syrius has taken over, all of the things I hated about terrestrial radio are slowly creeping into xm, but as I said, I'll hold my nose and pay as long as I still feel it's worth it.
From: Bob Braun on 9 Apr 2010 14:57
"JustTom" <tom(a)nomail.please> wrote in message news:4bbf2064.1123043065(a)newsread.glorb.com... > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:35:21 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxinfla(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >>With proper management, they could be an incredible medium. They have >>TOTALLY mismanaged it! That's why I put my money behind internet radio. >> >> > > Satellite radio reminds me a lot of VOOM. Great idea derailed by > pinheads. > > Much like the pinheads getting ready to kill the golden goose that is > the ncaa tournament. > > I honestly don't see the internet radio thing, but admit haven't > really followed any for several years to know how it's evolved. Most > of my radio time is in the car or outside. Before XM, I'd anchor a > few internet net big band stations (so you're not alone Henry) when I > was working from home but the playlists were pretty limited, and until > I got cable modem, pretty choppy. XM's huge variety, non-dj > commercial free, and seemingly infinite playlists shelved the > internet radio for me for a long time. Of course, now that Syrius > has taken over, all of the things I hated about terrestrial radio are > slowly creeping into xm, but as I said, I'll hold my nose and pay as > long as I still feel it's worth it. If you are interested........email me. I'll tell you where internet radio has come from, and where I think it is headed. The success of internet radio is largely related to the mismanagement of satellite radio. I now have thousands of listeners. Yesterday, we were picked up Replay Radio, which helps a bunch! Incidentally, if anyone has any questions they want to submit. I have an interview set up with Mr. Craig Worman. He is in the Reds front office. |