From: john smith on
It was a big shame what happened to the kid in Chicago the other night
in regard to the blown call and lost perfecto. The replay clearly showed
he was out. Of course this will open up the can of worms on whether
instant replay should now be used in correcting these missed calls by
the umpires.

The only thing I believe replay should be used in is in the fair or foul
ball in regard to homeruns and if it is a homerun or not near the wall.
I really don't wish to take the human element out of the game. I believe
every game has an ebb and flow to it and slowing down the game to look
at something just ruins the game. Heck, sometimes a play is so close,
even the camera can't definitively get it right.

Let's leave it the umpire's hands. I know they have a tough job and I am
willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Even though I might be
the first one to complain about them. Umpiring is a tough job, ever try
it at a somewhat decent level of competition? It is no picnic.

The only things I can ask for from an umpire is integrity and
consistency. If he gives me those two things, at the end of the day I am
satisfied........

From: john smith on
My error, meant to say kid from Detroit...

From: Thomas R. Kettler on
In article <18893-4C09208A-8864(a)baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
eddygdvd(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:

> It was a big shame what happened to the kid in Chicago the other night
> in regard to the blown call and lost perfecto. The replay clearly showed
> he was out. Of course this will open up the can of worms on whether
> instant replay should now be used in correcting these missed calls by
> the umpires.
>
Ahem. Armando Galarraga plays for the Tigers. The game occurred in
Detroit against Cleveland.

> The only thing I believe replay should be used in is in the fair or foul
> ball in regard to homeruns and if it is a homerun or not near the wall.
> I really don't wish to take the human element out of the game. I believe
> every game has an ebb and flow to it and slowing down the game to look
> at something just ruins the game. Heck, sometimes a play is so close,
> even the camera can't definitively get it right.
>
> Let's leave it the umpire's hands. I know they have a tough job and I am
> willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Even though I might be
> the first one to complain about them. Umpiring is a tough job, ever try
> it at a somewhat decent level of competition? It is no picnic.
>
> The only things I can ask for from an umpire is integrity and
> consistency. If he gives me those two things, at the end of the day I am
> satisfied........

You realize that the wrong foul call in the 2009 ALDS severely
diminished the Twins chances against the Yankees when Joe Mauer's
"double" was called foul despite being a foot inside the line.

Hawkeye hasn't affected tennis that much yet it does slow down a match
for just a few seconds to verify if a ball was in or out.

I'm presuming that the Jeffrey Maier case would be checked by replay.
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From: Brian Douglas on

"john smith" <eddygdvd(a)msn.com> wrote in message
news:18893-4C09208A-8864(a)baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com...
> It was a big shame what happened to the kid in Chicago the other night
> in regard to the blown call and lost perfecto. The replay clearly showed
> he was out. Of course this will open up the can of worms on whether
> instant replay should now be used in correcting these missed calls by
> the umpires.
>
> The only thing I believe replay should be used in is in the fair or foul
> ball in regard to homeruns and if it is a homerun or not near the wall.
> I really don't wish to take the human element out of the game. I believe
> every game has an ebb and flow to it and slowing down the game to look
> at something just ruins the game. Heck, sometimes a play is so close,
> even the camera can't definitively get it right.
>
> Let's leave it the umpire's hands. I know they have a tough job and I am
> willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Even though I might be
> the first one to complain about them. Umpiring is a tough job, ever try
> it at a somewhat decent level of competition? It is no picnic.
>
> The only things I can ask for from an umpire is integrity and
> consistency. If he gives me those two things, at the end of the day I am
> satisfied........

Baseball is a great game. The human element is a big part of it. If a crew
confers on a call....fair/foul, fan interference etc..........no one can
clearly say that they saw it, they should be able to opt for a replay view.
But, I want that decision to remain in the hands of the umpires.

The people at ESPN suggesting that Selig should reverse that call is
ludicrous.

Joyce and the Tigers handled the whole thing with class. The fans who
threatened Joyce and his family are complete idiots.

Aside...........I'm having an umpire crew from the Florida State League in
the studio. We will discuss this call as well as the uphill climb these
young men have to ever reach MLB. I'll post the date and time.


From: David Short on
On 6/4/2010 12:40 PM, Brian Douglas wrote:
> "john smith"<eddygdvd(a)msn.com> wrote in message
> news:18893-4C09208A-8864(a)baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com...
>> It was a big shame what happened to the kid in Chicago the other night
>> in regard to the blown call and lost perfecto. The replay clearly showed
>> he was out. Of course this will open up the can of worms on whether
>> instant replay should now be used in correcting these missed calls by
>> the umpires.

The plus side of this is that Mr. Galarraga is now in an even rarer club
than the group of guys who pitched a perfect game. He pitched a perfect
game and the umpires blew it. That's a story that will stay around as
long as Harvy Haddix

>> The only thing I believe replay should be used in is in the fair or foul
>> ball in regard to homeruns and if it is a homerun or not near the wall.
>> I really don't wish to take the human element out of the game. I believe
>> every game has an ebb and flow to it and slowing down the game to look
>> at something just ruins the game. Heck, sometimes a play is so close,
>> even the camera can't definitively get it right.
>>
>> Let's leave it the umpire's hands. I know they have a tough job and I am
>> willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Even though I might be
>> the first one to complain about them. Umpiring is a tough job, ever try
>> it at a somewhat decent level of competition? It is no picnic.
>>
>> The only things I can ask for from an umpire is integrity and
>> consistency. If he gives me those two things, at the end of the day I am
>> satisfied........
>
> Baseball is a great game. The human element is a big part of it. If a crew
> confers on a call....fair/foul, fan interference etc..........no one can
> clearly say that they saw it, they should be able to opt for a replay view.
> But, I want that decision to remain in the hands of the umpires.

Yup. The human element includes errors.

> The people at ESPN suggesting that Selig should reverse that call is
> ludicrous.

Nah. They're just stirring the pot in order to keep folks watching.
That's what they do.

> Joyce and the Tigers handled the whole thing with class. The fans who
> threatened Joyce and his family are complete idiots.

I agree. Joyce in particular has been great about it. He blew the call
and freely admitted that. I can't imagine an umpire from 15 years ago
ever admitting they blew a call and apologize to players.

> Aside...........I'm having an umpire crew from the Florida State League in
> the studio. We will discuss this call as well as the uphill climb these
> young men have to ever reach MLB. I'll post the date and time.

Good luck to them. I refereed enough to get an inkling of how hard it is
to do right.

Ask them about automating the strike zone.....heh.

dfs