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From: HTP on 21 Sep 2009 14:29 On Sep 21, 10:50 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > On Sep 21, 10:20 am, Bushcraftgregg <gk...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sep 18, 11:33 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > > > > On Sep 17, 10:39 am, Zuke <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, JustTom wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:00:53 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Congratulations to a classy professional. > > > > > > I was kind of surprised there haven't been any yanks with 3000 hits. > > > > > Makes another case for Vada Pinson for the Hall of Fame. What was > > > > he, about 200 hits short? In this day and age he could have probably > > > > played another 5 years and made it easily. > > > > I doubt it. He was entering his 37 year season. Was coming > > > off a terrible year and hadn't actually played well for > > > years. He didn't retire in 1976, nobody wanted him. > > > > I think he's a classic illustration in how a player with > > > poor plate discipline but a quick bat is finished the > > > moment the bat slows. > > > Ron, I read and reread your post. Did you mean > > Pinson played 37 seasons and he didn't retire > > till 76? Surely I misunderstood or there was a typo, > > just curious. {?} > > David explained it well. I used the phrase "37 year season" > rather than "he was 37 years old" to be consistent with the > age you see listed on baseball-reference. (which is age > at midnight, June 30) > > As it happens,Pinson's birthday is in April so he wasn't > quite 37 when the season started (and nobody invited him > to camp). I'm about 99% confident that Pinson didn't > so much retire as run out of opportunities.- Hide quoted text - > According to his B-R page, released by the Brewers Apr 4, 1976 after being signed in January. I assume he just didnt make the cut coming out of camp that year.
From: Zuke on 21 Sep 2009 14:32 On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sep 21, 10:20 am, Bushcraftgregg <gk...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> On Sep 18, 11:33 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 10:39 am, Zuke <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, JustTom wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:00:53 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> Congratulations to a classy professional. >> >>>>> I was kind of surprised there haven't been any yanks with 3000 hits. >> >>>> Makes another case for Vada Pinson for the Hall of Fame. What was >>>> he, about 200 hits short? In this day and age he could have probably >>>> played another 5 years and made it easily. >> >>> I doubt it. He was entering his 37 year season. Was coming >>> off a terrible year and hadn't actually played well for >>> years. He didn't retire in 1976, nobody wanted him. >> >>> I think he's a classic illustration in how a player with >>> poor plate discipline but a quick bat is finished the >>> moment the bat slows. >> >> Ron, I read and reread your post. Did you mean >> Pinson played 37 seasons and he didn't retire >> till 76? Surely I misunderstood or there was a typo, >> just curious. {?} > > David explained it well. I used the phrase "37 year season" > rather than "he was 37 years old" to be consistent with the > age you see listed on baseball-reference. (which is age > at midnight, June 30) > > As it happens,Pinson's birthday is in April so he wasn't > quite 37 when the season started (and nobody invited him > to camp). I'm about 99% confident that Pinson didn't > so much retire as run out of opportunities. I agreed with that after I looked up his stats. Unbelievable that he was still around in '75, the greatest year in Reds history. Bill James has him listed 18th in all time centerfielders.
From: Ron Johnson on 21 Sep 2009 15:14 On Sep 21, 2:29 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Sep 21, 10:50 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > > > As it happens,Pinson's birthday is in April so he wasn't > > quite 37 when the season started (and nobody invited him > > to camp). I'm about 99% confident that Pinson didn't > > so much retire as run out of opportunities. > > According to his B-R page, released by the Brewers Apr 4, 1976 after > being signed in January. I assume he just didnt make the cut coming > out of camp that year. Good catch. Didn't realize Sean had full transactions (including release) that far back. But I should know that Sean ROOOLZ and and checked. Doesn't change the point. He extended his career as far as possible.
From: Bob Braun on 21 Sep 2009 15:17 "Bushcraftgregg" <gkotr(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:3beb2da2-2cc1-4c84-b868-e21657553e00(a)d23g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... an admitted bias..............He's a Wolverine. Screw him!- Hide quoted text - > Not that I doubt you Bob, because I don't. But did he (Larkin) actually spit in Jack's face? I think I vaguely remember "something" about that but it somewhat escapes my mind. Just asking. *************************************** No.................not literally.
From: HTP on 21 Sep 2009 16:44
On Sep 21, 12:14 pm, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > On Sep 21, 2:29 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 21, 10:50 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > > > > As it happens,Pinson's birthday is in April so he wasn't > > > quite 37 when the season started (and nobody invited him > > > to camp). I'm about 99% confident that Pinson didn't > > > so much retire as run out of opportunities. > > > According to his B-R page, released by the Brewers Apr 4, 1976 after > > being signed in January. I assume he just didnt make the cut coming > > out of camp that year. > > Good catch. Didn't realize Sean had full transactions > (including release) that far back. But I should know > that Sean ROOOLZ and and checked. Doesn't change the > point. He extended his career as far as possible. You know the guy that runs that site? It bothers me that he has so many ads on the pages now. Pop-ups that happen when you move your mouse around are quite annoying. But I guess thats the price you pay for the breadth of info he now supplies. He's got bills to pay. |