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From: Bushcraftgregg on 21 Sep 2009 08:24 On Sep 15, 4:14 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Ron Johnson" <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message > > news:43ef74df-9296-4712-88a4-6c2645959803(a)m11g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 15, 2:06 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "john smith" <eddyg...(a)msn.com> wrote in message > > >news:1955-4AAFCF1D-10838(a)baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com... > > > > Derek Jeter= Barry Larkin less the injuries, range and can't forget the > > > Worldd Series(4 Rings as oppposed to 1 Larkin ring).... > > > > If Larkin had played for the Yanks he would be considered a lock hall of > > > famer. He will be lucky to get in IMO. Definitely won't be in there on > > > first ballot.... > > > So being on the Yankees DL as opposed the Cincy DL would put him in the > > Hall > > of Fame? > > > You should be arguing Davey to the HOF. He had more range than either of > > them. > >And they more than made up the difference with their bats. > > The comment was about 'range'. > > And I thought Barry became an arrogant jerk-off that turned his back on his > team more than once. I didn't forget about him ripping the 'C' off his > uniform or leaving early during a game spitting in McKeon's face. They > manipulated Uncle Carl into giving him his last contract, which was a > mistake. > > I have an admitted bias..............He's a Wolverine. Screw him!- Hide quoted text - > Not that I doubt you Bob, because I don't. But did he (Larkin) actually spit in Jack's face? I think I vaguely remember "something" about that but it somewhat escapes my mind. Just asking.
From: Kevin McClave on 21 Sep 2009 09:37 On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Bushcraftgregg <gkotr(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Sep 15, 4:14�pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Ron Johnson" <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message >> >> news:43ef74df-9296-4712-88a4-6c2645959803(a)m11g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... >> On Sep 15, 2:06 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "john smith" <eddyg...(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:1955-4AAFCF1D-10838(a)baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com... >> >> > > Derek Jeter= Barry Larkin less the injuries, range and can't forget the >> > > Worldd Series(4 Rings as oppposed to 1 Larkin ring).... >> >> > > If Larkin had played for the Yanks he would be considered a lock hall of >> > > famer. He will be lucky to get in IMO. Definitely won't be in there on >> > > first ballot.... >> >> > So being on the Yankees DL as opposed the Cincy DL would put him in the >> > Hall >> > of Fame? >> >> > You should be arguing Davey to the HOF. He had more range than either of >> > them. >> >And they more than made up the difference with their bats. >> >> The comment was about 'range'. >> >> And I thought Barry became an arrogant jerk-off that turned his back on his >> team more than once. �I didn't forget about him ripping the 'C' off his >> uniform or leaving early during a game spitting in McKeon's face. �They >> manipulated Uncle Carl into giving him his last contract, which was a >> mistake. >> >> I have an admitted bias..............He's a Wolverine. �Screw him!- Hide quoted text - > >Not that I doubt you Bob, because I don't. But >did he (Larkin) actually spit in Jack's face? > >I think I vaguely remember "something" about that >but it somewhat escapes my mind. Just asking. I am almost certain Danny was being figurative and that Larkin never actually spit in McKeon's face. He and Griffey *did* leave the team during the last game of Jack's final season with the Reds, though. I thought that was bush league when it happened, even though I don't hold the harsh feelings for Larkin generally that Danny does. The captain thing, for example (and again, he didn't *literally* rip the C of his jersey, I think he asked to have it removed) wasn't a big deal to me...in fact, given the way the Reds were running at that time (the more things change...), it was an understandable blow up. ********************************************************************* Kevin McClave "Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it." ~Robert F. Kennedy *********************************************************************
From: Bushcraftgregg on 21 Sep 2009 10:20 On Sep 18, 11:33 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > On Sep 17, 10:39 am, Zuke <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, JustTom wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:00:53 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> Congratulations to a classy professional. > > > > I was kind of surprised there haven't been any yanks with 3000 hits. > > > Makes another case for Vada Pinson for the Hall of Fame. What was > > he, about 200 hits short? In this day and age he could have probably > > played another 5 years and made it easily. > > I doubt it. He was entering his 37 year season. Was coming > off a terrible year and hadn't actually played well for > years. He didn't retire in 1976, nobody wanted him. > > I think he's a classic illustration in how a player with > poor plate discipline but a quick bat is finished the > moment the bat slows. Ron, I read and reread your post. Did you mean Pinson played 37 seasons and he didn't retire till 76? Surely I misunderstood or there was a typo, just curious. {?}
From: David Short on 21 Sep 2009 11:56 Bushcraftgregg wrote: > On Sep 18, 11:33 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: >> On Sep 17, 10:39 am, Zuke <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, JustTom wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:00:53 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Congratulations to a classy professional. >>>> I was kind of surprised there haven't been any yanks with 3000 hits. >>> Makes another case for Vada Pinson for the Hall of Fame. What was >>> he, about 200 hits short? In this day and age he could have probably >>> played another 5 years and made it easily. >> I doubt it. He was entering his 37 year season. Was coming >> off a terrible year and hadn't actually played well for >> years. He didn't retire in 1976, nobody wanted him. >> >> I think he's a classic illustration in how a player with >> poor plate discipline but a quick bat is finished the >> moment the bat slows. > > Ron, I read and reread your post. Did you mean > Pinson played 37 seasons and he didn't retire > till 76? Surely I misunderstood or there was a typo, > just curious. {?} Not Ron, Pinson would have been 37 years old in 1976. Pinson last played in September of 1975 for the Royals. He didn't so much "retire" as much as he played so poorly that nobody wanted him around anymore. dfs
From: Ron Johnson on 21 Sep 2009 13:50
On Sep 21, 10:20 am, Bushcraftgregg <gk...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On Sep 18, 11:33 am, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 17, 10:39 am, Zuke <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, JustTom wrote: > > > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:00:53 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Congratulations to a classy professional. > > > > > I was kind of surprised there haven't been any yanks with 3000 hits.. > > > > Makes another case for Vada Pinson for the Hall of Fame. What was > > > he, about 200 hits short? In this day and age he could have probably > > > played another 5 years and made it easily. > > > I doubt it. He was entering his 37 year season. Was coming > > off a terrible year and hadn't actually played well for > > years. He didn't retire in 1976, nobody wanted him. > > > I think he's a classic illustration in how a player with > > poor plate discipline but a quick bat is finished the > > moment the bat slows. > > Ron, I read and reread your post. Did you mean > Pinson played 37 seasons and he didn't retire > till 76? Surely I misunderstood or there was a typo, > just curious. {?} David explained it well. I used the phrase "37 year season" rather than "he was 37 years old" to be consistent with the age you see listed on baseball-reference. (which is age at midnight, June 30) As it happens,Pinson's birthday is in April so he wasn't quite 37 when the season started (and nobody invited him to camp). I'm about 99% confident that Pinson didn't so much retire as run out of opportunities. |