From: tom dunne on
The Reds have managed three hits through six innings today off Tom
Gorzelanny, and two of them are off the bat of rookie pitcher Mike
Leake. After Leake's second hit, Stubbs replaced him via a fielder's
choice, then steals second and third. Tying run on third with one
out, but O-Cab and Votto follow with a K and a groundout.

Welcome to the majors, Mike. Sorry you have to pitch for a team that
can't score.

From: john smith on
What is particularly alarming is the amount of times Votto and Stubbs
have struck out through 6 games. Anybody have this total?

Votto looks horrible and messed up at the plate right now. I expect him
to straighten out as he is a proven commodity. Stubbs problem is he is
trying to jack everything. Those first inning swings were from his
heels. His minor-league K total was pretty high.

One two in the order is going to kill this club all year round. WJ might
just have to pull the trigger on getting a legitimate one or two hitter
in here or contending may be a pipe dream. It is still early.

From: Bob Braun on

"john smith" <eddygdvd(a)msn.com> wrote in message
news:10677-4BC23C91-9559(a)baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com...
> What is particularly alarming is the amount of times Votto and Stubbs
> have struck out through 6 games. Anybody have this total?
>
> Votto looks horrible and messed up at the plate right now. I expect him
> to straighten out as he is a proven commodity. Stubbs problem is he is
> trying to jack everything. Those first inning swings were from his
> heels. His minor-league K total was pretty high.
>
> One two in the order is going to kill this club all year round. WJ might
> just have to pull the trigger on getting a legitimate one or two hitter
> in here or contending may be a pipe dream. It is still early.
>

Tough crowd! :) 3-3 through six...........the fire Dusty thread is already
here. Dump the one-two guys.

Votto will hit. Don't worry about that one.

The guy that continues to impress me, and did all last year, is Gomes. All
I see him do, is play consistent, sound baseball. He comes up in the bottom
of the 8th today with a 1 run lead and the sacks full. He looks for
something away, and drives the ball to right field, making sure to plate
that insurance run. Things like that go unnoticed too often. Most of
today's players would have swung from the heels in that situation.

There has been some real sloppy play in these first six. Hopefully, they
settle down a bit now.

The kid, Leake battled for a nice big league debut.


From: Chuck on
On Apr 11, 5:57 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "john smith" <eddyg...(a)msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:10677-4BC23C91-9559(a)baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com...
>
> > What is particularly alarming is the amount of times Votto and Stubbs
> > have struck out through 6 games. Anybody have this total?
>
> > Votto looks horrible and messed up at the plate right now. I expect him
> > to straighten out as he is a proven commodity. Stubbs problem is he is
> > trying to jack everything. Those first inning swings were from his
> > heels. His minor-league K total was pretty high.
>
> > One two in the order is going to kill this club all year round. WJ might
> > just have to pull the trigger on getting a legitimate one or two hitter
> > in here or contending may be a pipe dream. It is still early.
>
> Tough crowd!  :)  3-3 through six...........the fire Dusty thread is already
> here.  Dump the one-two guys.
>
> Votto will hit.  Don't worry about that one.
>
> The guy that continues to impress me, and did all last year, is Gomes.  All
> I see him do, is play consistent, sound baseball.  He comes up in the bottom
> of the 8th today with a 1 run lead and the sacks full.  He looks for
> something away, and drives the ball to right field, making sure to plate
> that insurance run.  Things like that go unnoticed too often.  Most of
> today's players would have swung from the heels in that situation.
>
> There has been some real sloppy play in these first six.  Hopefully, they
> settle down a bit now.
>
> The kid, Leake battled for a nice big league debut.

I am pretty impressed already..I think the hitting will come around,
at least as long as the pitching is good you will always be in the
hunt...Way to early to change anything yet!
From: john smith on
What impressed me about Leake today was his ability to paint both sides
of the plate. He isn't going to blow people away but his ball sure does
have significant ball movement. I even thought he got squeezed a few
times by the home plate ump and to his credit he never showed his
displeasure. Poise from a 22 year old guy is quite nice to see. He takes
nothing for granted. I heard WJ say he was unloading the equipment truck
in Arizona. Quite nice to be humble.


Another bonus is his ability to work quickly, this Gibson like trait
will benefit the defense immensely. I really like this guy and see no
reason to rush Volquez back so quickly. Unlike last year the starting
pitching depth seems to be for real. Talk to me after June 15 on that
one. That time last year was when the pitching went south in a hurry.

With all the young arms and people in this group showing their concerns
for innings pitched, a six man rotation might not sound so far-fetched.
But then again injuries always seem to straighten things out in the long
run.

Gomes is a very professional hitter and a hard nosed player. He is an
asset to any team. One of my biggest concerns thus far is 1-2 in the
order. I just don't see this as being a positive on this team.

Another concern is this team's overall anxious approach at the plate.
With the huge number of strikeouts this batting order has rung up so
far, this approach could lead to prolonged losing streaks. I just don't
see this team as a manufacturer of runs. The lack of speed and number of
strikeouts by hitters is very disappointing through 6 games. The
fundamentals must improve. Like Danny says, little things often go
unnoticed by the casual fan but they can be really important. Especially
at the major league level where the difference between winning and
losing can be ever so thin!

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