From: The Gnorkmeister on
On Jun 9, 4:05 pm, nate <greyst...(a)net1plus.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 6:27 pm, The Gnorkmeister <gn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Here it is in order: > you rarely see a bunt attempt get turned into a
> > GIDP. (Nate)
>
> > Probably no more rarely than McDonald has GIPD with Boston. (gnork)
>
> yeah, thanks.
>
> - nate

You are welcome. Now beat Cleveland!
From: The Gnorkmeister on
On Jun 9, 2:12 pm, The Gnorkmeister <gn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 10:46 am, nate <greyst...(a)net1plus.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 8, 1:16 pm, The Gnorkmeister <gn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Too often the so called "successful" bunt attempts lead to no runs.
> > > Then the bevy of bunting buffoons usually fully ignore the positive
> > > things that might have happened had the hitter swung away....[]...
>
> > you are ignoring the BAD thing that can happen if it's V-Mart or
> > Lowell or Ellsbury swing away - the batter could ground into a double
> > play, killing the inning.
>
> > sometimes, in the old days, before the DH, i would just hope that my
> > pitcher would simply strike out rather than hit the ball into play, on
> > the ground for a double play.  a strikeout is so much better an
> > outcome than a GIDP.
>
> > you rarely see a bunt attempt get turned into a GIDP.
>
> Probably no more rarely than McDonald has GIPD with Boston. That
> number is ONE in 139 PAs. Obviously many of those PAs came in
> situations where a GIDP was not possible, but that is still a low
> rate. Further, the computer analysis certainly considers DP likelihood
> in arriving at the likely number of runs scored.
>
> The Red Sox and especially Victor Martinez have improved a lot at
> avoiding GIDP. After 25 games or so Martinez was on pace for over 60
> on the season and the Red Sox led the AL. Now the Sox are only 5 in
> GIDP. The Twins lead.
>
> Player..................GIDP..........................PA
> Beltre                    10                             236
> Martinez                   9                             213
> Scutaro                    9                             274
> Pedroia                    7                             276
> Ortiz                          6                             190
> Lowell                      4                                79
> Youkilis                    3                              258
> Drew                        2                              229
> Cameron                  1                               63
> McDonald                 1                             139
> Hall                            1                             117
> Hermida                    0                              146
> Varitek                       0                                79
>
> Beltre keeps a very steady pace between walking and grounding into
> DPs. Last year he had 19 of each. So far this year he has 11 walks to
> go with 10 GIDPs. He also has 11 errors, but that is only because
> official scorers have been lenient with him.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Now it is 11 across for Beltre. Eleven walks, 11 GIDPs and 11 errors.
Those are not lucky 11s.
From: nate on
On Jun 9, 8:03 pm, The Gnorkmeister <gn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> You are welcome. Now beat Cleveland!


i cant do much about it. that was some heavy jinx Don dropped on 'em.

once it's out there, you cant take it back....

Masterson really needs a game like this for his own sake. Just wish
it wasnt happening now.



- nate
From: McDuck on
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:18:18 -0700 (PDT), The Gnorkmeister
<gnork(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Now it is 11 across for Beltre. Eleven walks, 11 GIDPs and 11 errors.
>Those are not lucky 11s.

On a day when No. 11 pitched a decent game, giving up 3 runs in 7
innings and getting tagged with the loss.