The Rose Award For 6-10-2007.
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From: slidge on 12 Jun 2007 13:14 > Maybe you missed it, but Rose actually passed Cobb in hits. And > that makes Rose the greatest hitter since he has the greatest number > of hits. No, that just makes Pete Rose the player with the most hits. The greatest hitter is the player with the most total bases, by definition and without qualification. A hitter who hits five homeruns is a greater hitter than the hitter that hits five singles.
From: slidge on 12 Jun 2007 13:17 > We aren't measuring atbats. We're trying to determine which player > had the _greatest_ number of hits. Wrong, you are determining which player had the *most* hits > That player would be the _greatest_ hitter, by definition and without > qualification. Again, wrong. The _greatest_ hitter, by definition and without qualification, is the hitter with the most total bases, unless you believe that a single is a _greater_ hit than a homerun.
From: Steve Cutchen on 12 Jun 2007 13:48 In article <lyAbi.521$ZY1.43(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, <slidge(a)slidge.com> wrote: > > We aren't measuring atbats. We're trying to determine which player > > had the _greatest_ number of hits. > > Wrong, you are determining which player had the *most* hits > > > That player would be the _greatest_ hitter, by definition and without > > qualification. > > Again, wrong. The _greatest_ hitter, by definition and without > qualification, is the hitter with the most total bases, unless you believe > that a single is a _greater_ hit than a homerun. "If I made my living hitting singles like Pete, I'd wear a dress." - Mickey Mantle
From: Bill Kawalec on 12 Jun 2007 14:15 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz -- I never read email at the Yahoo address! <slidge(a)slidge.com> wrote in message news:5wAbi.520$ZY1.365(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Maybe you missed it, but Rose actually passed Cobb in hits. And >> that makes Rose the greatest hitter since he has the greatest number >> of hits. > > No, that just makes Pete Rose the player with the most hits. The greatest > hitter is the player with the most total bases, by definition and without > qualification. > > A hitter who hits five homeruns is a greater hitter than the hitter that > hits five singles. > >
From: rm on 12 Jun 2007 14:39
In rec.sport.baseball Sir Creep <sircreep(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > In my lifetime I would consider Carew and Gwynn and Brett better > 'hitters' than Rose. Ah, so you are qualifying it? > Hell, I can't even call Rose the greatest LEADOFF hitter, seeing > as that moniker is reserved for Rickey Henderson (another A-hole). Did Rickey have the greatest number of leadoff hits? > How about winning a batting title? Or hitting, oh I don't > know......370? Or how about doing nothing more than having the > general concensus be on the order of 'boy he sure got a lot of > clutch hits', 'you could sure count on him when you needed it'. But Rose doesn't need such qualification. > Let me know when your 'greatest hitter' of all time accomplishes > anything not involving a criminal element. Sure. Pete Rose was the greatest hitter of all time, by definition and without qualification. Perhaps we are using too many big words? cordially, as always, rm |