The Rose Award For 6-10-2007.
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From: Sir Creep on 14 Jun 2007 11:01 On Jun 12, 1:14 pm, sli...(a)slidge.com wrote: > > Maybe you missed it, but Rose actually passed Cobb in hits. And > > that makes Rose the greatest hitter since he has the greatest number > > of hits. > > No, that just makes Pete Rose the player with the most hits. The greatest > hitter is the player with the most total bases, by definition and without > qualification. > > A hitter who hits five homeruns is a greater hitter than the hitter that > hits five singles. Actually what you would have been better off saying was 'a hitter that goes 3-for-5 with 3 homers is a greater hitter than the guy with 5 singles.' But alas, dimwit will actually argue the opposite....just wait! SC
From: rm on 14 Jun 2007 11:06 In rec.sport.baseball slidge(a)slidge.com wrote: >>> You intentionally mis-use the term to grant a status to Rose >>> which he >> Greatest? We simply use the everyday meaning, the one that is in >> the dictionary. That's why we say that Rose is the greatest, by >> definition and without qualification. > Wrong, again! The 'everyday' meaning of 'great' is "Of things, > actions, events: Of more than ordinary importance, weight or > distinction; important, weighty; distinguished, prominent; famous, > renowned" (Oxford English Dictionary). When we say the "Greatest > Generation", we are referring to that generation that > distinguished itself by rising to the occasion during the > Depression and World War II - we don't refer to them as that > because they had the most people. Compact Oxford English Dictionary http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/great?view=uk great adjective 1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average. http://www.answers.com/topic/great great (gr?t) pronunciation adj., great?er, great?est. 1. Very large in size. 2. Larger in size than others of the same kind. 3. Large in quantity or number: A great throng awaited us. Sorry, sweetie. You lose. Again. Both Oxford and Answers.com says you're wrong. Again. > The 'greatest hitter' is therefore the hitter that distinguished > himself above all others, and if you are going purely on > statistics, its the player with the most total bases, by > definition and without qualification. You are using the secondary meaning. We are using the primary meaning in both the Oxford and any other dictionary we have looked at. Your job now is to look up the word "primary." cordially, as always, rm
From: Sir Creep on 14 Jun 2007 11:09 > Since he has the greatest number of hits, he is the game's greatest > hitter. Simple logic. Absolutely not....and anyone discussing the English language knows you're wrong. The word 'great' (or greatest) is not an adjective one can properly use to describe an AMOUNT. That's what you're doing and you've been told you are wrong to do so over and over. Sir Creep Professor of Fine Arts Oxford
From: rm on 14 Jun 2007 12:50 In rec.sport.baseball Sir Creep <sircreep(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Actually what you would have been better off saying was 'a hitter that > goes 3-for-5 with 3 homers is a greater hitter than the guy with 5 > singles.' But alas, dimwit will actually argue the opposite....just > wait! The hitter with the 3 homeruns would be regarded as the greater slugger. In hitting, the distance of the hit is irrelevant. That's why a hr is worth the same as a single when computing batting average. Batting average is a measure of hitting. You know that, right? And you know how to calculate batting average, don't you? Why are you people posting to baseball groups? The stuff we are talking about is pretty fundamental. We don't see our role as being primarily an educator. cordially, as always, rm
From: rm on 14 Jun 2007 12:54
In rec.sport.baseball Sir Creep <sircreep(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Since he has the greatest number of hits, he is the game's >> greatest hitter. Simple logic. > Absolutely not....and anyone discussing the English language knows > you're wrong. > The word 'great' (or greatest) is not an adjective one can > properly use to describe an AMOUNT. That's what you're doing and > you've been told you are wrong to do so over and over. You should actually read a dictionary before you type such stuff because it makes you look silly. Here's a hint: type the words great definition into your browser's search window. cordially, as always, rm |