Prev: Red Bird Whine?
Next: Pitching Coach
From: HTP on 6 Oct 2009 15:54
On Oct 6, 4:36 am, John Kasupski <w2...(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT), HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >oops, youre right. I did post (tmbowman... yahoo.com), but i predicted
> >82-80, not 80-82. EMBARRASSED!!!
>
> I don't see where you have anything to be embarassed about. Votto and Bruce
> spent significant time on the DL and Volquez missed most of the season. I'm not
> interested enough in saber to do the math, but anecdotally at least, I'd say
> they easily make up the four game difference between my 78 and your 82 if
> they're healthy all year - even with Taveras sucking a caramel stick as big as a
> redwood log in the leadoff spot.
>
> JK

I agree with you JohnK that the team could very well have reached 82
wins with a few reasonable breaks, and i'm not embarrassed about
predicting 82 wins. Its just that i remembered it as 80-82, and for a
long while, even before davids post, i was actually eyeing that number
and thought i had a chance of nailing it. It really bothers me when i
remember something incorrectly and fail to catch it after so much time
passes.
From: HTP on 6 Oct 2009 16:09
On Oct 6, 7:06 am, David Short <David.no.Sh...(a)Spam.Wright.Please.edu>
wrote:
> John Kasupski wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT), HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> oops, youre right. I did post (tmbowman... yahoo.com), but i predicted
> >> 82-80, not 80-82. EMBARRASSED!!!
>
> > I don't see where you have anything to be embarassed about. Votto and Bruce
> > spent significant time on the DL and Volquez missed most of the season. I'm not
> > interested enough in saber to do the math, but anecdotally at least, I'd say
> > they easily make up the four game difference between my 78 and your 82 if
> > they're healthy all year - even with Taveras sucking a caramel stick as big as a
> > redwood log in the leadoff spot.
>
> I agree. If Jonny Gomes had been versitile enough to play first base
> when Votto was hurt instead of sticking a catcher there....
>
> Heck, go for low hanging fruit and put Gomes on the opening day roster.....
>
> If they had not signed Taverible.....
>
> A healthy Bruce....
>
> When Gonzales and Edwin where hurt they could have played Janish and
> Hairston instead of playing Hairston and Rosales...
>
> If the lightbulb had gone off in Homer's head a month before it did...
>
> Here's a fun game I'll call the John-Harang game since we played it with
> him earlier in the year.
>
> Which of the reds could play for a playoff team?
>
> Votto-Phillips-Rolen-Hernandez are all sure things.
> Arroyo-Harang-Baily-Cueto-Cordero-Masset-Herrara-Rhodes can.
>
> I think Gomes belongs here. You need to spot him for the things he can't
> do, but he can mash lefties and he won't embaress you against righties.
>
> Ryan Hannigan did everything but stay healthy. He's not a full time
> catcher, but he could fill part of a catching slot on a good team. There
> aren't that many full time catchers.
>
> Who definitely is not a playoff caliber baseball player right now?
> Miller, McDonald, Tatum, Taverible, Rosales.
>
> Justin Lehr is not a pitcher for a playoff team. During Lehr's last two
> starts Brantley kept crying about Lehr being tired from overuse and that
> he couldn't hit 92 this deep into the season. The thing is I saw Lehr's
> first two starts with the reds and he didn't get over 88 in either of
> those.
>
> ...I like Nix as much as the next guy, but he belongs here. The
> difference between Jay Bruce and Laynce Nix right now is that Nix is 28
> and not going to develop.
>
> That leaves some question marks, Guys who need to step forward
>
> The big ones would be Jay Bruce, Drew Stubbs, Paul Janish, and Dickerson.
>
> Then there are a bunch of guys who didn't get enough playing time to
> make a decision either way Balentin, Sutton, Richar, Castillo.
>
> What do you do with Juan Francisco....I know it's only 25 plate
> appearances, but ....damn. Do you tell him to go play winter ball in the
> outfield? Do you tell him to go to an instructional league? Do you leave
> him alone and put him at third base in Louisville in the spring? I know
> they are September numbers and I don't think he's ready, but ....damn.
>
> Matt Maloney belongs here. A decision has to be made. He's only started
> and I believe this was his last option year.
>
> Other than the hitting, Micah Owing had a terrible season. He's in the
> not-playoff bin with a chance to jump into needs to step forward bin.
>
> Jarred Burton seemed to get lit up whenever the game was close. That's a
> bad thing for a reliever. His end of year numbers are respectable, but
> they aren't good. You can tell me that both Owing and Burton belong in
> the non-playoff bin and I won't argue too loudly.
>
> What do you think?
>
> dfs

Ironically, there are 2 Reds who were in the opening day lineup, and
who were prime culprits for the teams losing season, who will play in
October. Jerry Hairston Jr. is (likely) on the Yankees playoff roster,
and Alex Gonzalez will be starting at ss for the Red Sox. Go figure.
From: David Short on 6 Oct 2009 16:33
HTP wrote:
> On Oct 6, 4:36 am, John Kasupski <w2...(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT), HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> oops, youre right. I did post (tmbowman... yahoo.com), but i predicted
>>> 82-80, not 80-82. EMBARRASSED!!!
>> I don't see where you have anything to be embarassed about. Votto and Bruce
>> spent significant time on the DL and Volquez missed most of the season. I'm not
>> interested enough in saber to do the math, but anecdotally at least, I'd say
>> they easily make up the four game difference between my 78 and your 82 if
>> they're healthy all year - even with Taveras sucking a caramel stick as big as a
>> redwood log in the leadoff spot.
>>
>> JK
>
> I agree with you JohnK that the team could very well have reached 82
> wins with a few reasonable breaks, and i'm not embarrassed about
> predicting 82 wins. Its just that i remembered it as 80-82, and for a
> long while, even before davids post, i was actually eyeing that number
> and thought i had a chance of nailing it. It really bothers me when i
> remember something incorrectly and fail to catch it after so much time
> passes.

welcome to my life.

dfs
From: john smith on 6 Oct 2009 19:37
In regard to your analysis David on just about every player, I agree
with a whole lot you say. IMO the Reds have 2 big holes next year and
that is short stop and catcher. I am not sold on Hernandez or Hannigan
for 2010. For all the playing time Hannigan had last year and he had
quite a lot, I just can't get beyond the RBI total, it was just
pathetic, yeah I know he hit 8th a lot. Hernandez and his age as a
CATCHER can only get worse.....

Having said all this, I think there are three big keys to next year and
it all hinges on 3 players. Harang, he is going to be here whether I
like it or not. So if he can have an above average season and win at
least 15 games.... so will go the pitching staff. The other two keys are
Bruce and Rolen. If Bruce can step up his game and be a viable hitter
other than homeruns, we are in business. The last piece is keeping Rolen
on the field for at least 130 games... A whole lot of hopefullness,
reality?

If these three things happen and with a little luck, they may
contend....

From: John Kasupski on 8 Oct 2009 01:38
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT), HTP <tmbowman25(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>I've seen progosticators who believe that the Reds are probably no
>closer than theyve been in years, if not further away. I tend to agree
>with you though and think that they are within reach for 2010. They
>finished 13 games back. Thats it. Thats not alot to make up,
>especially if the Cardinals lose a few players.

Or maybe their pitching coach? :-)

JK

First  |  Prev  | 
Pages: 1 2 3 4
Prev: Red Bird Whine?
Next: Pitching Coach