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From: Bob Braun on 20 Apr 2010 15:16
.......rapidly descending to the outhouse!

Edinson Volquez, 50 game suspension for 'roids.

I'm glad we got rid of the druggie Josh Hamilton for him!

The Cincinnati Reds deserve everything they get.


From: john smith on 20 Apr 2010 15:57
I would cut him, don't need the drama. He had 10 good weeks in his
career.

From: HTP on 20 Apr 2010 20:19
On Apr 20, 12:57 pm, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:
> I would cut him, don't need the drama. He had 10 good weeks in his
> career.

He's 21-8 with a 3.44 era in 245 innings since joining the Reds. Thats
more than 10 weeks worth of success.

I do not believe that you would cut him. He wouldnt be here for you
to cut. I think that if you were GM you would have been snookered out
of him in March of 2008, for some shiny proven vets and thier huge
contracts.

Fortunatly we have a GM that doesnt make kneejerk moves.
From: HTP on 20 Apr 2010 20:49
On Apr 20, 12:16 pm, "Bob Braun" <oxin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> ......rapidly descending to the outhouse!
>
> Edinson Volquez, 50 game suspension for 'roids.

The article on MLB i read said "PED's". Something on the banned
substance list, although from the Volquez's statement it sounded like
some kind of male fertility drug. Now thanks to retarded zero
tolerance policies and holier-than-thou loudmouth hypocrites, Volquez
is being lumped into the same group as Bonds.


>
> I'm glad we got rid of the druggie Josh Hamilton for him!

Wasnt this the same organization that gave the druggie his chance to
make a come back in the first place?

Yes, so obviously trading him wasnt about ridding ourselves of the
druggie.

But ok, if you want to go there.

So am I.

Volquez 21-8 3.44 era in 245 innings

Herrera 4-5 3.50 era in 72 innings (3.02 era in 65 innings if you dont
count the trouncing he received in his cup of coffee at the end of
2008)

for

Hamilton 257 games of 118 OPS+

I'm not trying to knock the guy but he hasnt been the same since the
end of May 2008. He's been a below average offensive player since
then. Even with the injury and suspension of Volquez, i still see this
as a win for the Reds.

I know that you'll never see it this way because youre absolutely in
love with Hamiltons ability to handle every pitch in the zone,
although for some odd reason that ability, over Josh's last 175 or so
games, hasnt translated into any more offense than someone like Chris
Dickerson can muster.

I couldnt have predicted that and i know he's been injured, but there
it is.

I do wish the guy well.

>
> The Cincinnati Reds deserve everything they get.

For trading Hamilton? Or is this still whining about moving to
Arizona?



From: john smith on 20 Apr 2010 20:56
Why don't you remove Volquez first 15 starts as a Red and I bet his era
is over 5 since then. There are a boat load of 10 week wonders out
there. Talk to me when and if the guy ever pitches a full season in the
majors. He never has and I doubt he ever will. Another roid boy down the
tubes.

As far as appearance, I wonder what goes on in brains that dress the way
they do. Speaking of appearances, I never got these guys who put boat
loads of pine tar on their helmets. This guy Cabrera might be in need of
a psychiatrist, the whole front of his helmet is black...

I agree with you Danny, my disdain for the modern player grows
exponentially everyday....

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