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From: tom dunne on 6 Feb 2010 15:04 On Feb 6, 1:55 pm, John Kasupski <w2...(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote: > Some hole...they had the best record in baseball from August 23 on. I think that was more a product of the schedule than it was the team playing significantly better. 17 of those 40 games came against the Pirates and Astros, and the Reds went 15-2 in those games. They were a .500 team against other opponents in that stretch. Bailey also benefited from playing Pittsburgh so much. The team went 4-0 in his starts against the Pirates and 2-3 in his other starts during that stretch.
From: Kommienezuspadt on 6 Feb 2010 16:22 "John Kasupski" <w2pio(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote in message news:oherm5drknmboo87qv1aenisfi8hhan94e(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:41:22 -0500, "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoWay.com> > wrote: > >> >>"David Short" <David.No.Short(a)Spam.Wright.Please.Edu> wrote in message >>news:hkjv7m$hon$1(a)posting.glorb.com... >>>> Just wondering without the energy to look it up -- how many times did >>>> Dusty hit the SS 2 nd in the order? >>> >>> By count (whose OCD?) 68 times. Some of those where Hairston, which was >>> appropriate. Some of those were A-Gon...which is understandable but >>> misguided. I would say half of those were Janish at the end of the >>> season >>> which is darn unforgivable. >> >>Thx -- strange thing perception --- I would have bet it was well over 100 >>times.... but when it was the hole it was ---- pain can be magnified >>;-) > > I get 72. Hairston was the most frequent #2 hitter with 55 times, but a > lot of > those were at another position. Janish had the second most and he only hit > second 35 times, all of them from August 23 to the end of the season. > > Some hole...they had the best record in baseball from August 23 on. > > JK > > OK -- let's leave Janish there in the 2 hole & see what happens --- ;-)) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4842 (20100206) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: John Kasupski on 7 Feb 2010 23:58 On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:04:46 -0800 (PST), tom dunne <dunnetg(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Feb 6, 1:55�pm, John Kasupski <w2...(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote: > >> Some hole...they had the best record in baseball from August 23 on. > >I think that was more a product of the schedule than it was the team >playing significantly better. 17 of those 40 games came against the >Pirates and Astros, and the Reds went 15-2 in those games. They were >a .500 team against other opponents in that stretch. Don't get me wrong here. I do think that the quality of the opposition needs to be taken into account when evaluating the accomplishments of a team or an individual player. I probably give this factor more consideration than half the other guys here. But if you look at the Reds' W/L records against the other teams in the division, they were 12-4 against the Astros, 13-5 against the Pirates, 8-7 against the Brewers, 8-8 against the Cardinals. That's what good teams do, Tom, they beat the teams they're supposed to beat. The Cardinals, who won the division with a 91-71 record, went 6-1 against the Nationals and 10-5 against the Pirates. That ten wins right there is the difference between them being the division winner and a .500 ballclub. They were a .500 team against the Reds. >Bailey also >benefited from playing Pittsburgh so much. The team went 4-0 in his >starts against the Pirates and 2-3 in his other starts during that >stretch. However, in all three of those games he started that were eventual Reds losses, he worked better than five innings and allowed three or fewer runs. In one of those losses he worked seven shutout innings against the Marlins, only to have the bullpen uncharacteristically blow the game. In another he allowed only one run in 5+ innings against the Rockies, an eventual playoff team that the Reds were 0-7 against overall in 2009. Speaking of Bailey pitching against playoff-caliber opposition during the period after August 23, he beat the division champion Cardinals, tossing seven innings against them on Sept. 29 and allowing one run while fanning seven. He also tossed eight shutout innings against the NL West champion Dodgers, which was the only game the Reds won against the Dodgers all year. JK
From: John Kasupski on 8 Feb 2010 00:06 On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:22:29 -0500, "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoWay.com> wrote: >OK -- let's leave Janish there in the 2 hole & see what happens --- ;-)) I thought that's what they were going to do, but lately there's been talk about another player, some guy named Cabrera...and regardless of what I have said in this thread in defense of Janish, I do think O-Cab is an upgrade over Janish offensively. Whether he's still good enough with the leather to make what he does with the lumber stand up...well, I guess we'll start finding out in a few more weeks. JK
From: Kommienezuspadt on 8 Feb 2010 09:18
"John Kasupski" <w2pio(a)spamfilter.verizon.net> wrote in message news:6f6vm51tk6128h69o02f2duv7fr9emr4fi(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:22:29 -0500, "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoWay.com> > wrote: > >>OK -- let's leave Janish there in the 2 hole & see what happens --- ;-)) > > I thought that's what they were going to do, but lately there's been talk > about > another player, some guy named Cabrera...and regardless of what I have > said in > this thread in defense of Janish, I do think O-Cab is an upgrade over > Janish > offensively. Whether he's still good enough with the leather to make what > he > does with the lumber stand up...well, I guess we'll start finding out in a > few > more weeks. > > JK > We're both seeing the Cabera adition in the same light -- I assume he'll be an upgrade offensively -- if he his in the 2 hole he'll be better than what we had -- but I agree that it will be by a matter of degrees and I don't see a great option in the 1 hole either. |