From: David Short on 5 Feb 2010 17:26
On 2/5/2010 4:10 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Which would be an important point if Cabrera was Janish's equal
> Do you believe this to be the case?
After watching Janish in Dayton and cincy...yeah. I know the numbers
scream how great he is, but ....I also don't think the low BAPIP is a
chance thing. He's overmatched by major league pitching. One of the
press guys here wrote about how Janish got the bat knocked out of his
hands several times last year. I didn't witness that, but it wouldn't
shock me if it was true.
>> Again, I'm not going to get too excited here "We�re just talking about
>> different shades of suckitude."
> Which is my complaint. The money would be more usefully spent
> setting fire to it before the home opener. OK, fireworks
> would be even better.
> Cabrera's about as known a commodity as one can imagine. Spending
> on him makes sense only in the context of a "this close to making
> the playoffs" kind of team.
> To be clear, I'm not arguing for Janish. Any GM who can't
> do better for (essentially) free is not competent. John
> McDonald is his upside and I've got no use for him.
I don't know how bad Cabrera is likely to be....35 year old shortstops
usually aren't world beaters. I do have a pretty strong feeling that
Janish at the plate is like sending up a pitcher. That's a LOT of defense.
From: Ron Johnson on 5 Feb 2010 18:03
On Feb 5, 5:26 pm, David Short
> On 2/5/2010 4:10 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Which would be an important point if Cabrera was Janish's equal
> > defensively.
> > Do you believe this to be the case?
> After watching Janish in Dayton and cincy...yeah. I know the numbers
> scream how great he is, but ....I also don't think the low BAPIP is a
> chance thing. He's overmatched by major league pitching.
That could be. But I don't think you understand what an
outlier Janish's numbers to date are.
Howsomeever I was asking whether you believe
Janish and Cabrera are equals with the glove.
If they're at all close, it's a sign that
the Cincy organization doesn't have their
act in gear (in that Janish should have been
released years ago -- his glove probably
peaked last year)
From: john smith on 5 Feb 2010 18:06
35 year old shortstops like Cabrera are best suited on a contender in
need of a shortstop who is going to bat eighth. If I was the Reds, I
would roll the dice on Janish who has more upside at this point. If the
Reds think this guy Cabrera is a number two hitter, they are living in
the land of KOOL-AID...
Thank God for Taveras being elsewhere. He was a cancer on this club.
Getting him at bats would have been catastrophic to any chances this
team has going east...
From: John Kasupski on 5 Feb 2010 23:43
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 13:21:24 -0800 (PST), Ron Johnson <johnson(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
>On Feb 5, 3:16�pm, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wonder what those projections said about Bruce and Taveras last year.
>Well you can check easily enough. His spreadsheet is archived at
>.276/.328/.522 for Bruce and .272/.318/.331 for Taveras
>And .228/.293/.347 for Janish
So much for that, then.
Besides, what matters isn't what's projected, it's what they actually do.
From: John Kasupski on 6 Feb 2010 00:10
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:06:35 -0800, eddygdvd(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:
>If the Reds think this guy Cabrera is a number two hitter, they are living in
>the land of KOOL-AID...
Yeah, why would they think that?