From: mercutio on 14 Apr 2010 07:42 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:33:38 -0500, Mark Sieving <Mark.Sieving(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:40:54 -0400, mercutio <jim013152(a)yahoo.com> >wrote: > >>You forgot that Pods has struck out about 200 times more than Pierre >>in 1 less year. They both average about 3 errors a year but iI would >>be willing to bet Pierre gets to alot more balls. > >Strikeouts are outs, but they're not particularly more significant >than any other out. You can score a run or advance a baserunner on a ground out or a fly out. Neither of these things happen with a strikeout I don't know how valid Baseball Reference's >defensive stats are, but they rate Podsednik's range better than >Pierre's. Not from what I've seen. Again I'm not saying that either is a defensive wizard .I am saying that they are at least equal and from what I have seen Pierre goes back on the ball much better than Pods ( altho that wouldn't take much) And Pierre can't throw worth a damn. Neither can Pods Jim
From: Alfred on 14 Apr 2010 08:08 On Apr 14, 4:42 am, mercutio <jim013...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:33:38 -0500, Mark Sieving > > <Mark.Siev...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:40:54 -0400, mercutio <jim013...(a)yahoo.com> > >wrote: > > >>You forgot that Pods has struck out about 200 times more than Pierre > >>in 1 less year. They both average about 3 errors a year but iI would > >>be willing to bet Pierre gets to alot more balls. > > >Strikeouts are outs, but they're not particularly more significant > >than any other out. > > You can score a run or advance a baserunner on a ground out or a fly > out. Neither of these things happen with a strikeout > > I don't know how valid Baseball Reference's>defensive stats are, but they rate Podsednik's range better than > >Pierre's. > > Not from what I've seen. Again I'm not saying that either is a > defensive wizard .I am saying that they are at least equal and from > what I have seen Pierre goes back on the ball much better than Pods ( > altho that wouldn't take much) > > And Pierre can't throw worth a damn. > Neither can Pods > > Jim And I'm still saying that paying less than 24% on a dollar for what your willing to pay for the same product is a bad choice.
From: mercutio on 14 Apr 2010 14:06 > >And I'm still saying that paying less than 24% on a dollar for what >your willing to pay for the same product is a bad choice. You aren't . Pierre hits better , bunts better, runs the bases better is better in the field, and strikes out less Jim
From: Tom Benton on 14 Apr 2010 18:49 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:32:46 -0400, "Jeff D." <jddieterle(a)hughes.net> wrote: > >"Mark Sieving" <Mark.Sieving(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:2o2as5tfoc0mikv45bn4nc1ktn80dsji1k(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:40:54 -0400, mercutio <jim013152(a)yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>>You forgot that Pods has struck out about 200 times more than Pierre >>>in 1 less year. They both average about 3 errors a year but iI would >>>be willing to bet Pierre gets to alot more balls. >> >> Strikeouts are outs, but they're not particularly more significant >> than any other out. I don't know how valid Baseball Reference's >> defensive stats are, but they rate Podsednik's range better than >> Pierre's. And Pierre can't throw worth a damn. > >Maybe the best way to evaluate these two lefty leadoff men will be during >the first week in May when they go head-head > Is Pods even batting lead-off now? I have seen him second in line-ups lately.
From: Tom Benton on 14 Apr 2010 18:50
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:06:38 -0400, mercutio <jim013152(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>And I'm still saying that paying less than 24% on a dollar for what >>your willing to pay for the same product is a bad choice. > >You aren't . Pierre hits better , bunts better, runs the bases better >is better in the field, and strikes out less > >Jim I hope you are right, Jim...but I ain't convinced so far. I am trying to keep an open mind. |