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From: LidsvilleNine on 30 Jul 2007 16:08 On Jul 30, 1:59 pm, Tom <drso...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Jul 29, 11:57 pm, LidsvilleNine <LidsvilleN...(a)earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > > > On Jul 29, 5:07 pm, "Jeff" <J...(a)nospam.com> wrote: > > > > Just curious what your thoughts are about the following for the rest of the > > > year. > > > Duncan in LF > > > Schumaker in CF > > > Ludwig in RF > > > > I'll hang up and listen. > > > Cardinal announcers have consistently butchered the names of Cardinal > > players since I began following them in 1968; but eventually > > corrections come. > > Has *anyone* noticed that the OF's name is LudwiCK? This annoys me > > almost as much as "Poo-holes" and "Poo-Holtz" And these are spoken by > > people who never bungle "Encarnacion." lol > > I noticed the same thing, Earl. It's as if they can't even be bothered > to read the name on the jersey. Jay Randolph was calling David > Eckstien "Ecksteen" until a couple of months ago, but regressed > yesterday. I'll give him credit, tho, he corrected himself (probably > because Rick Horton gave him a dirty look!). > > Rene Knott on channell 5 calls Juan Encarnacion "EncaNARcion" and I > find that maddening, as well. I've heard other non- Cardinals > announcers make the same mistake. > > Jack Buck was pretty good with Hispanic and Latino names,I guess in > part, because he was fluent in Spanish. That and he did his > homework. ;-) > > I suppose the bottom line is lack of preparation on the the parts of > the various announcers. What would it take for them to ask a player, > "How does one correctly pronounce your name?" > > Tom Some of those names are pretty difficult to pronounce after the 12th ice cold Busch!
From: Tom on 30 Jul 2007 16:49 On Jul 30, 3:08 pm, LidsvilleNine <LidsvilleN...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On Jul 30, 1:59 pm, Tom <drso...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 29, 11:57 pm, LidsvilleNine <LidsvilleN...(a)earthlink.net> > > wrote: > > > > On Jul 29, 5:07 pm, "Jeff" <J...(a)nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > Just curious what your thoughts are about the following for the rest of the > > > > year. > > > > Duncan in LF > > > > Schumaker in CF > > > > Ludwig in RF > > > > > I'll hang up and listen. > > > > Cardinal announcers have consistently butchered the names of Cardinal > > > players since I began following them in 1968; but eventually > > > corrections come. > > > Has *anyone* noticed that the OF's name is LudwiCK? This annoys me > > > almost as much as "Poo-holes" and "Poo-Holtz" And these are spoken by > > > people who never bungle "Encarnacion." lol > > > I noticed the same thing, Earl. It's as if they can't even be bothered > > to read the name on the jersey. Jay Randolph was calling David > > Eckstien "Ecksteen" until a couple of months ago, but regressed > > yesterday. I'll give him credit, tho, he corrected himself (probably > > because Rick Horton gave him a dirty look!). > > > Rene Knott on channell 5 calls Juan Encarnacion "EncaNARcion" and I > > find that maddening, as well. I've heard other non- Cardinals > > announcers make the same mistake. > > > Jack Buck was pretty good with Hispanic and Latino names,I guess in > > part, because he was fluent in Spanish. That and he did his > > homework. ;-) > > > I suppose the bottom line is lack of preparation on the the parts of > > the various announcers. What would it take for them to ask a player, > > "How does one correctly pronounce your name?" > > > Tom > > Some of those names are pretty difficult to pronounce after the 12th > ice cold Busch! I'll always remember a piece I read in the P-D back in the 80s when the Cardinals had about 19 announcers between radio, broadcast TV and cable TV. The writer was going down the list of pairings and ended it with, "... and the foriegn- language team of Mike Shannon and Lou Brock." Good times, good times. Tom
From: Atlanta Cardfan on 31 Jul 2007 02:30
Tom wrote: > On Jul 30, 3:08 pm, LidsvilleNine <LidsvilleN...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> On Jul 30, 1:59 pm, Tom <drso...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jul 29, 11:57 pm, LidsvilleNine <LidsvilleN...(a)earthlink.net> >>> wrote: >>>> On Jul 29, 5:07 pm, "Jeff" <J...(a)nospam.com> wrote: >>>>> Just curious what your thoughts are about the following for the rest of the >>>>> year. >>>>> Duncan in LF >>>>> Schumaker in CF >>>>> Ludwig in RF >>>>> I'll hang up and listen. >>>> Cardinal announcers have consistently butchered the names of Cardinal >>>> players since I began following them in 1968; but eventually >>>> corrections come. >>>> Has *anyone* noticed that the OF's name is LudwiCK? This annoys me >>>> almost as much as "Poo-holes" and "Poo-Holtz" And these are spoken by >>>> people who never bungle "Encarnacion." lol >>> I noticed the same thing, Earl. It's as if they can't even be bothered >>> to read the name on the jersey. Jay Randolph was calling David >>> Eckstien "Ecksteen" until a couple of months ago, but regressed >>> yesterday. I'll give him credit, tho, he corrected himself (probably >>> because Rick Horton gave him a dirty look!). >>> Rene Knott on channell 5 calls Juan Encarnacion "EncaNARcion" and I >>> find that maddening, as well. I've heard other non- Cardinals >>> announcers make the same mistake. >>> Jack Buck was pretty good with Hispanic and Latino names,I guess in >>> part, because he was fluent in Spanish. That and he did his >>> homework. ;-) >>> I suppose the bottom line is lack of preparation on the the parts of >>> the various announcers. What would it take for them to ask a player, >>> "How does one correctly pronounce your name?" >>> Tom >> Some of those names are pretty difficult to pronounce after the 12th >> ice cold Busch! > > > > I'll always remember a piece I read in the P-D back in the 80s when > the Cardinals had about 19 announcers between radio, broadcast TV and > cable TV. The writer was going down the list of pairings and ended it > with, "... and the foriegn- language team of Mike Shannon and Lou > Brock." > > Good times, good times. > KMOX used to air a banquet (sponsored?) by the "Knights of the Caulifloured Ear" which was a combination celebration of each of the St. Louis sports teams accomplishments. There were lots of jokes and sketches, but one most memorable was giving Mike Shannon the "most improved broadcaster award for the unprecedented 11th year in a row!" Paul |