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From: David Short on 29 Apr 2010 14:18
On 4/29/2010 2:07 PM, Bob Braun wrote:
> Dunn-Hamilton-Bruce should have been set for years!!!!!!!! It was said at
> the time and repeated at every opportunity. It would have been a productive
> outfield that was PLENTY affordable.
>
> If you are running those guys out there regularly, you could afford to let a
> guy like Janish play every day. With Rolen, Phillips, Votto and
> Hannigan....that's a pretty nice looking lineup.
>
> That's why I say the Cincinnati Reds have on one to blame but themselves.

Really? You say the reds have on one to blame?

I don't think that's what you say.

But I could be wrong.

dfs


From: tom dunne on 29 Apr 2010 20:36
On Apr 29, 6:23 pm, John Kasupski <w2...(a)spamfilter.verizon.net>
wrote:

> I don't want to re-open this argument. There's nothing new to be said. A team
> like the Phillies can afford to have a guy in the middle of the lineup striking
> out 200 or so times because they can afford to pay the salaries necessary to put
> guys like Rollins, Victorino, etc. in the lineup around Ryan Howard - who
> incidentally has a career .279 BA compared to Dunn's .249 - but teams like the
> Reds can't afford to do that. Dunn is hitting .227 right now. His .267 last year
> was a career high, his 177 strikeouts was not and he was a defensive butcher at
> two positions. Just the kind of guy perennial losers tend to have on their
> rosters and that's WHY they're perennial losers.

Here are stats for two players, showing their average performances
over a 162 game season.

Player A: .249 avg/.383 obp/.518 slg, 40 homers, 97 RBI, career 132 OPS
+, lead league in strikeouts 3 times.
Player B: .262 avg/.356 obp/.490 slg, 32 homers, 98 RBI, career 139 OPS
+, lead league in strikeouts 5 times.

Which one is a Hall of Famer with 4 rings, and which one is the reason
why his franchises are perennial losers? How can you tell the
difference? Honest answers only, please - no looking up the names
until after you submit your guess!
From: Bob Braun on 29 Apr 2010 20:37

"David Short" <David.No.Short.(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote in message
news:hrcihd$vpe$1(a)posting.glorb.com...
> On 4/29/2010 2:07 PM, Bob Braun wrote:
>> Dunn-Hamilton-Bruce should have been set for years!!!!!!!! It was said
>> at
>> the time and repeated at every opportunity. It would have been a
>> productive
>> outfield that was PLENTY affordable.
>>
>> If you are running those guys out there regularly, you could afford to
>> let a
>> guy like Janish play every day. With Rolen, Phillips, Votto and
>> Hannigan....that's a pretty nice looking lineup.
>>
>> That's why I say the Cincinnati Reds have on one to blame but themselves.
>
> Really? You say the reds have on one to blame?
>
> I don't think that's what you say.
>
> But I could be wrong.
>
> dfs

When I get pissed I type fast and transpose letters.


From: john smith on 29 Apr 2010 21:59
guess Adam Dunn and Reggie Jackson?

From: tom dunne on 29 Apr 2010 22:38
On Apr 29, 9:59 pm, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote:
> guess Adam Dunn and Reggie Jackson?

You got it in one, John! Their career averages are very similar, and
Reggie Jackson is actually the all-time strikeout leader in MLB
history. He also made the playoffs 11 times, with three different
franchises. Jackson shares the all-time strikeout top ten with Willie
Stargell, Mike Schmidt and Tony Perez, each one a Hall of Famer and
champion. Strikeouts are no fun to watch, but they really just don't
mean anything about how good or bad a player is.
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