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From: S/B 954RR on 16 Jan 2010 18:37 "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hiovej$jvi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Wayback1918" <wayback1918(a)verizon.net> wrote in message > news:3d238142-57a0-48e4-b0ea-b0345c1fcbea(a)34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 14, 7:50 pm, The Venerable Sarge <srgntbi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Wayback1918 <wayback1...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > 18 ex-Red Sox still on the market.....(I might have missed >> > someone...but no one any good) >> >> > Who will be on major league rosters opening day? >> >> > Rocco Baldelli (28) >> > Paul Byrd (39) >> > Chad Bradford (35) >> > Orlando Cabrera (35) >> > Bruce Chen (32) >> > Johnny Damon (36) >> > Brendon Donnelly (38) >> > Alan Embry (39) >> > Chad Fox (39) >> > Nomar Garciaparra (36) >> > Mark Loretta (38) >> > Ron Mahay (38) >> > Pedro Martinez (38) >> > Kevin Millar (38) >> > Tomo Ohka (33) >> > Joel Pinero (31) >> > John Smoltz (42) >> > Matt Stairs (41) >> >> I thought I saw Brendon Donnelly's name signed with someone recently.- >> Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Tokyo Yakult Swallows....one down. > > ======================================================================== > > Theo dumped Damon prematurely. > he would have been worth keeping after all. > he was very good for NY. > > Damon did Theo a favor by acting like a dirtbag during negotiations. He left for the bright lights and they ended up wayyy overpaying for 2 good offensive years and four years of dogshit defense.
From: Pearly Soames on 16 Jan 2010 19:35 Ray O'Hara wrote: > > > mo you have it backwatds, the Sox were ditching all the "idiots" Damon was > too popular just to blow off so they lowballed him. > the Sox never dealt in good faith. > all the free spirits, Damon, Millar, Lowe and a few others were dumped. now > we have a bunch of souless corporate drones like Tek and Drew, its too much > for Pedey and Paps to counter yet. > > You've got a strange outlook Ray. Damon got a fair offer from the Sox, and took overpayment from the Yankees instead. Lowe was sub-replacement level and Millar had dropped off as well; they were performance issues, not personality issues. If you think that a team with Pedroia, Papi, Papelbon, and Youk is corporate, I don't know who you'd want to add to spice things up. Should the Sox go back after Damon, Millar, Lowe, and Pedro? They're all available. Or should they just try to get Drew to act more wacky?
From: Wayback1918 on 16 Jan 2010 20:28 On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Wayback1918 <wayback1...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > 18 ex-Red Sox still on the market.....(I might have missed > someone...but no one any good) > > Who will be on major league rosters opening day? > > Rocco Baldelli (28) > Paul Byrd (39) > Chad Bradford (35) > Orlando Cabrera (35) > Bruce Chen (32) > Johnny Damon (36) > Brendon Donnelly (38) > Alan Embry (39) > Chad Fox (39) > Nomar Garciaparra (36) > Mark Loretta (38) > Ron Mahay (38) > Pedro Martinez (38) > Kevin Millar (38) > Tomo Ohka (33) > Joel Pinero (31) > John Smoltz (42) > Matt Stairs (41) Brenden Donnelly signed with Pittsburgh.....1 YR-$1.5 million....incentives that could get him as high as $3 Million. The Pirate's continue their commitment to their 18 year re-building program
From: Eddie on 16 Jan 2010 21:56 "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hit7cf$gqh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Dano" <janeanddano(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hip2f6$vdp$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Ray O'Hara wrote: >>> "Wayback1918" <wayback1918(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:3d238142-57a0-48e4-b0ea-b0345c1fcbea(a)34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jan 14, 7:50 pm, The Venerable Sarge <srgntbi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Wayback1918 <wayback1...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 18 ex-Red Sox still on the market.....(I might have missed >>>>> someone...but no one any good) >>>> >>>>> Who will be on major league rosters opening day? >>>> >>>>> Rocco Baldelli (28) >>>>> Paul Byrd (39) >>>>> Chad Bradford (35) >>>>> Orlando Cabrera (35) >>>>> Bruce Chen (32) >>>>> Johnny Damon (36) >>>>> Brendon Donnelly (38) >>>>> Alan Embry (39) >>>>> Chad Fox (39) >>>>> Nomar Garciaparra (36) >>>>> Mark Loretta (38) >>>>> Ron Mahay (38) >>>>> Pedro Martinez (38) >>>>> Kevin Millar (38) >>>>> Tomo Ohka (33) >>>>> Joel Pinero (31) >>>>> John Smoltz (42) >>>>> Matt Stairs (41) >>>> >>>> I thought I saw Brendon Donnelly's name signed with someone >>>> recently.- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Tokyo Yakult Swallows....one down. >>> >>> ======================================================================== >>> >>> Theo dumped Damon prematurely. >>> he would have been worth keeping after all. >>> he was very good for NY. >> >> You got it backwards. Damon dumped the Red Sox. He should have stayed >> here. >> > > mo you have it backwatds, the Sox were ditching all the "idiots" Damon was > too popular just to blow off so they lowballed him. > the Sox never dealt in good faith. > all the free spirits, Damon, Millar, Lowe and a few others were dumped. > now we have a bunch of souless corporate drones like Tek and Drew, its too > much for Pedey and Paps to counter yet. "Backwatds"? And you call others, "idiots"? Seriously, do you ever listen to what you say?
From: McDuck on 17 Jan 2010 01:48
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:37:20 -0500, "S/B 954RR" <jtibbs08(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:hiovej$jvi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> >> Theo dumped Damon prematurely. >> he would have been worth keeping after all. >> he was very good for NY. >> >> > >Damon did Theo a favor by acting like a dirtbag during negotiations. He >left for the bright lights and they ended up wayyy overpaying for 2 good >offensive years and four years of dogshit defense. The Damon negotiations were strange. The RS felt that their best offer to Damon was not communicated to him by his agent. Thus the show of Henry et al going to Texas to present the offer in person to Teixeira. Anyway, the RS made their offer to Damon and concluded he would not accept and quietly moved on. So, in some respects, the offer out there was one they pretty much knew would not be accepted. It stayed out a long time, which led to hard feels and misunderstandings from lots of Sox fans. I really don't blame the RS front office for getting frustrated, or same for Damon. There clearly was a mixup of some sort. I think that NYY overpaid. Yes, Damon got "market" in some sense, but really, it is the next highest bidder that sets the market, not the high bidder. so, when there is a big gap, I think we can say a team overpaid even if we are talking about market prices. I think NYY got only 3 years of dogshit defense. The first year was mediocre, not terrible. But the RS certainly had a major hole offensively in CF with Coco as the replacement. NYY has lots of money --- I don't think Damon hurt them competitively. |