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From: Dale Hicks on 15 Jul 2010 19:57
In article <8ad81466-1b1b-458b-85fe-39548064cf59
@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, dunnetg(a)gmail.com says...
> I don't
> have a problem with Bud's using the ASG to determine home field (it's
> no less arbitrary than alternating years),

The reason I don't like it is precisely because it's less arbitrary.

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From: Colin William on 18 Jul 2010 21:24
tom dunne wrote:
> I think the drop was directly related to the delayed start time. The
> broadcast began at 8pm, but with all the preamble the first pitch
> wasn't until 8:50. I imagine many casual fans just got tired of
> waiting for the game to begin and moved on to something else. I don't
> have a problem with Bud's using the ASG to determine home field (it's
> no less arbitrary than alternating years), but his emphasis on pomp
> and circumstance hasn't made it easy to watch games sometimes.

I imagine that's part of it, yes.

It's hard for me to gauge why my own interest in the AS game dropped. I
think interleague play took out some of the novelty for me, but I think
the moment when John Kruk bailed out against Randy Johnson might have
been the clincher. It was very entertaining, but if the players didn't
care, why should I? And yeah, Bud wants us to think it counts, but
clearly the managers don't believe that, else they'd play the best
players for more innings.

Colin
From: Tarkus on 18 Jul 2010 22:46
On 7/18/2010 6:24 PM, Colin William wrote:
> It's hard for me to gauge why my own interest in the AS game dropped. I
> think interleague play took out some of the novelty for me, but I think
> the moment when John Kruk bailed out against Randy Johnson might have
> been the clincher. It was very entertaining, but if the players didn't
> care, why should I? And yeah, Bud wants us to think it counts, but
> clearly the managers don't believe that, else they'd play the best
> players for more innings.

I've never thought of it as so much of a game, as matchups of the best
against the best. Yeah, I've always wanted the NL to win, but what has
really attracted me is watching the best pitchers go up against the best
hitters. And while you get some of that in interleague play (and even
intraleague play), it's on a much smaller scale.

The Kruk incident, and Bonds hugging the guy who robbed him of a HR,
never bothered me, because I never took the GAME that seriously. Yeah,
if everyone acted like Kruk, it would totally suck. But that was a very
isolated incident. Most players are very competitive (in the All-Star
game), and want to do their very best against the best. If nothing
else, their egos compel them to do so.

I really don't know why this year's All-Star game tanked so badly. I'm
guessing it's because there has been so much else going on, that it kind
of got lost in the shuffle. My original point was that making "it
count" was ill-conceived, and has absolutely no effect on the game's
popularity. Not to mention it's stupid rewarding 25 players for
something very few (if any) had anything to do with.
From: Dale Hicks on 18 Jul 2010 22:51
In article <8ahsk5FmjhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, karnevil9
@atlantabraves.net says...
> Most players are very competitive (in the All-Star
> game), and want to do their very best against the best. If nothing
> else, their egos compel them to do so.

That was a hell of a diving catch by the LF (I'm forgetting who it
was now) in the latter innings of the game.

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From: Tarkus on 18 Jul 2010 23:13
On 7/18/2010 7:51 PM, Dale Hicks wrote:
> In article<8ahsk5FmjhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, karnevil9
> @atlantabraves.net says...
>> > Most players are very competitive (in the All-Star
>> > game), and want to do their very best against the best. If nothing
>> > else, their egos compel them to do so.
> That was a hell of a diving catch by the LF (I'm forgetting who it
> was now) in the latter innings of the game.

There were great plays by both teams on defense, especially the NL. The
one that got the most attention was the RF throwing out Big Poppy at 2B,
when he failed to advance on a single in the 9th inning, but there were
many others. Really, a lot of people missed a very good game.
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