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From: blackjet76 on 14 Dec 2009 23:29 On Dec 14, 8:23 pm, Ruben Safir <ru...(a)mrbrklyn.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:10:14 -0800, jonathan wrote: > > On Dec 12, 9:53 pm, Ruben <ru...(a)www2.mrbrklyn.com> wrote: > >> If the Mets need some thunder off the bech and a platoon for Murph (not > >> to mention a 3 back up catcher), the Royals released Jacobs. > > >> Ruben > > > Your obsession for Jacobs aside . . . > > > 1. Jacobs has never caught an inning at the major league level, > > primarily because he was SO BAD in the minors that nobody would even > > attempt him there, even in an emergency situation. > > > 2. I don't know if you've noticed this, but Jacobs can't hit. His > > career OBP against RHP is .325. Let's not even talk about LHP. How > > many players can the Mets possibly cram into this lineup who can't get > > on base? They already have Francoeur, the Molina/Santos/Blanco/Coste > > out machine, whatever happens in LF (my money's on Angel Pagan), and now > > 1B. You're going to end up with 5 lineups spots (including the pitcher) > > that can't get on base at all. Assuming Reyes/Beltran/Wright/ Castillo > > play all 162 games next year, the Mets may score 600 runs. The saddest > > part is Castillo is actually good news in this lineup at this point. > > > 3. Jacobs makes Delgado look like a defensive whiz. He certainly makes > > Murphy look like a defensive whiz. For someone who pines for the days > > of Keith Hernandez, you couldn't find a more opposite player then Jacobs > > both offensively and defensively. Maybe you're pining for Dave Kingman > > instead and haven't realized it? > > > 4. Jacobs and Murphy both hit LH. How does that work in a platoon? > > 1st baseman are LH. It works using Jacobs to hit RH pitchers and Murph > hitting the Left handed pitchers plus an occasional RH as the numbers > dictate. By platooning your hopefully covering up the weak points of > players using a judicious platoon. Unlike Francour, Jacobs actually has > actually power averaging a long ball every 19.3HR per at bat. His use as > a catcher would be emergency only, and he could do that for a few > innings, and would eliminate the need for that 3rd empty roster spot on > the 40 man and on the bench. Most importantly, I see perhaps his best > roll as a PH with thunder off the bench, and since he was released, he > would cost nothing. > > FWIW - he averages 3.83 pitches per PA, which isn't that bad, and his > liefetime OPS+ versus RH pitchers is 110 and he's in his prime. Where > Jacobs gets really here is when he's behind in the count. Look at his > numbers when he is ahead in the count, and compare them to other > players. But he is useless even after an 0-1 count. > > Ruben The Royals of all teams released Jacobs. Even the Royals don't find Jacobs useful.
From: Ruben Safir on 14 Dec 2009 23:40 On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:29:53 -0800, blackjet76(a)aol.com wrote: > The Royals of all teams released Jacobs. Even the Royals don't find > Jacobs useful. Did you notice the Royals logjam of 1st base prospects .... nah - dead people can't read
From: jonathan on 15 Dec 2009 11:57 > > 1st baseman are LH. It works using Jacobs to hit RH pitchers and Murph The advantage to a LH first baseman has to do with throwing the ball across the diamond. Both Murphy and Jacobs throw RH. Again, both hit LH so as a platoon it doesn't make much sense. > hitting the Left handed pitchers plus an occasional RH as the numbers But neither guy can actually hit LH pitching. Murphy is bad, and Jacobs is atrocious. > dictate. By platooning your hopefully covering up the weak points of > players using a judicious platoon. Unlike Francour, Jacobs actually has But again, neither guy can hit LH pitching, so you still only have one half of a platoon. > actually power averaging a long ball every 19.3HR per at bat. His use as Well that's nice, but unfortunately he can't make contact or get on base. Also, his career SLG is .476, and consider he's 29, which means that he's at the tail end of his theoretical 'prime'. The more I look at it, the more Kingman-esque this becomes. Jacobs is .254/.313/.476 career and Kingman was .236/.302/.478. Kingman gets about a 10% edge in OPS+ because he played in a more pitching-dominated era, but the case could be made these are very similar players. If the Mets were the Boston Red Sox and had a lineup full of guys who get on base, then that's one thing. But there are already too many guys in this lineup who can't get on base for another out machine on the roster. > a catcher would be emergency only, and he could do that for a few > innings, and would eliminate the need for that 3rd empty roster spot on > the 40 man and on the bench. Most importantly, I see perhaps his best > roll as a PH with thunder off the bench, and since he was released, he > would cost nothing. I'd rather take a chance on a player with some upside. > > FWIW - he averages 3.83 pitches per PA, which isn't that bad, and his > liefetime OPS+ versus RH pitchers is 110 and he's in his prime. Where > Jacobs gets really here is when he's behind in the count. Look at his Half the guys in baseball can't hit behind in the count. That's why strike one is so important. I doubt he's suddenly going to figure it out at 29. I realize you're still pissed because they traded him for Delgado in the first place. You had Jacobs pegged for superstardom and you still think he can be. I think he's a freeswinging DH for a bad team. If the Royals don't even want to pay him, what should that tell you? The Royals will pay Willie Bloomquist, but they don't think Jacobs has value. > numbers when he is ahead in the count, and compare them to other > players. But he is useless even after an 0-1 count. > > Ruben
From: Stewart on 15 Dec 2009 17:40 On 12/12/2009 6:53 PM, Ruben wrote: > > > If the Mets need some thunder off the bech and a platoon for Murph (not to > mention a 3 back up catcher), the Royals released Jacobs. > > Ruben > The guy has more holes in his swing than the Carter has liver pills.
From: Stewart on 15 Dec 2009 17:42
On 12/13/2009 7:10 AM, jonathan wrote: > On Dec 12, 9:53 pm, Ruben<ru...(a)www2.mrbrklyn.com> wrote: >> If the Mets need some thunder off the bech and a platoon for Murph (not to >> mention a 3 back up catcher), the Royals released Jacobs. >> >> Ruben >> > > Your obsession for Jacobs aside . . . > > 1. Jacobs has never caught an inning at the major league level, > primarily because he was SO BAD in the minors that nobody would even > attempt him there, even in an emergency situation. > > 2. I don't know if you've noticed this, but Jacobs can't hit. His > career OBP against RHP is .325. Let's not even talk about LHP. How > many players can the Mets possibly cram into this lineup who can't get > on base? They already have Francoeur, the Molina/Santos/Blanco/Coste > out machine, whatever happens in LF (my money's on Angel Pagan), and > now 1B. You're going to end up with 5 lineups spots (including the > pitcher) that can't get on base at all. Assuming Reyes/Beltran/Wright/ > Castillo play all 162 games next year, the Mets may score 600 runs. > The saddest part is Castillo is actually good news in this lineup at > this point. > > 3. Jacobs makes Delgado look like a defensive whiz. He certainly > makes Murphy look like a defensive whiz. For someone who pines for > the days of Keith Hernandez, you couldn't find a more opposite player > then Jacobs both offensively and defensively. Maybe you're pining for > Dave Kingman instead and haven't realized it? > > 4. Jacobs and Murphy both hit LH. How does that work in a platoon? > They can make outs and not move up runners due to lack of contact on different days. |