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From: ng_reader on 6 Aug 2010 11:38 On 8/6/2010 10:18 AM, Steven M. O'Neill wrote: > Robert Harrison<rabiabidabi(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Well, the Marlins got robbed but screw them. If they didn't make so many >> errors every night maybe they'd have better karma. > > Has anyone seen a definitive replay? The only one I can find is > the one from Marlins TV, in which the only thing that is clear > is that their announcers do not know the rule regarding fair > balls in baseball. > The replay on Comcast was certainly an odd one. It hit the line before 3rd base, making it out of bounds, I think. Then bounced over the bag, and landed in bounds.
From: bd on 6 Aug 2010 12:04 ng_reader <wilgrow_co(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:i3haa8$hj2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > On 8/6/2010 10:18 AM, Steven M. O'Neill wrote: >> Robert Harrison<rabiabidabi(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Well, the Marlins got robbed but screw them. If they didn't make so >>> many errors every night maybe they'd have better karma. >> >> Has anyone seen a definitive replay? The only one I can find is >> the one from Marlins TV, in which the only thing that is clear >> is that their announcers do not know the rule regarding fair >> balls in baseball. >> > The replay on Comcast was certainly an odd one. It hit the line before > 3rd base, making it out of bounds, I think. Then bounced over the bag, > and landed in bounds. > In watching the replay, the ball hit the line in front of the bag, fair, then hit the line behind the bag, fair. I don't know how it possibly could have curved around the bag and still hit the lines in front of and behind the bag. We've lost games on bad calls, it's part of the game. bdog
From: Robert Harrison on 6 Aug 2010 12:43 On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:04:28 -0500, bd wrote: The ball hit foul right in front of the batter, then hit the line before reaching the bag, then hit 2 inches fair past the bag. So, if the ball was foul and crossed the bag in foul territory, the call was correct. It would, as you point out, have to have had some crazy english on it. The replay on mlb.com shows the ball hitting in foul ground in front of the batter. The Marlins' announcers are a couple of drama queens, screaming over each other to see who could debase the ump the loudest. Rob
From: ng_reader on 6 Aug 2010 12:59 On 8/6/2010 12:43 PM, Robert Harrison wrote: > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:04:28 -0500, bd wrote: > > The ball hit foul right in front of the batter, then hit the line before > reaching the bag, then hit 2 inches fair past the bag. > > So, if the ball was foul and crossed the bag in foul territory, the call > was correct. It would, as you point out, have to have had some crazy > english on it. > > The replay on mlb.com shows the ball hitting in foul ground in front of > the batter. > > The Marlins' announcers are a couple of drama queens, screaming over each > other to see who could debase the ump the loudest. > > > Rob So the rule is where the ball is *at* when it reaches the bag? You can listen to both sides here: http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=fla Maybe it was some bad umping that cost the Marlins but it was bad baseball that prevented the Phillies from going up 8-4 in the 9th. Dear Jason Werth, please get your head out of your buttocks.
From: Robert Harrison on 6 Aug 2010 13:38
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:59:11 -0400, ng_reader wrote: The rule is if the ball crosses third (or first) base, it's fair. If the ball is in foul territory when it passes the bag, it's a foul ball. It does not matter where it lands. And I'm wondering if the HP ump didn't blow the call right away, because the ball ( to my eyes) initially hits in foul ground . Shouldn't every thing after be dead? That 9th inning was comical. LA was saying how Werth looked like he was going to take third, and then he got picked off. And who thought up "go on contact" with 1st and 3rd / no outs? Even a double play scores a run. Rob |