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From: HTP on 13 Apr 2010 13:07 On Apr 13, 9:26 am, David Short <David.No.Sho...(a)Spam.wright.Please.edu> wrote: > On 4/13/2010 11:31 AM, RJA wrote:> On Apr 13, 10:43 am, tom dunne<dunn...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Apr 13, 10:08 am, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote: > > >>> In addition to Rolen's unexpected power, it is a pleasure to watch him > >>> play defense. At least now we don't have to hold our breath every time a > >>> throw is uncorked from third base.. > > >> Rolen is off to a good start. Why, it's almost as if he makes more > >> sense in the four hole than Babe Phillips! > > > Move Phillips to 2nd and tell him his new job is to get on base and do > > all those winning things that second hitters allegedly do. Cabrera > > can bat 8th. > > > Dickerson > > Phillips > > Votto > > Rolen > > Bruce > > Hernandez > > Stubbs > > Cabrera > > I like that one. > > Stubbs > Phillips > Votto > Rolen > Bruce > Gomes > Hernandez > Cabrera > > Works against lefties. > > dfs Doesnt it make a bit more sense to bat Rolen 2nd and Phillips 4th against lefties? We saw Phillips numbers against lefties and they are great, while Rolen, at this stage of his career appears to have most of his value in his OBP skills. yeah, theres the speed thing. Are folks worried that Rolen will be clogging the basepaths. Well, obviously Dusty is.
From: HTP on 13 Apr 2010 13:10 On Apr 13, 8:31 am, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 13, 10:43 am, tom dunne <dunn...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 13, 10:08 am, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote: > > > > In addition to Rolen's unexpected power, it is a pleasure to watch him > > > play defense. At least now we don't have to hold our breath every time a > > > throw is uncorked from third base.. > > > Rolen is off to a good start. Why, it's almost as if he makes more > > sense in the four hole than Babe Phillips! > > Move Phillips to 2nd and tell him his new job is to get on base and do > all those winning things that second hitters allegedly do. Cabrera > can bat 8th. Do you really think that Phillips would be able to suddenly make himself over as an OBP guy? I doubt that. If cabrera is going to be dropped to 8th, then they might as well just start Janish. Bringing in a guy for his offensive ability and then batting him 8th doesnt make all that much sense. Obviously, all this is moot. Dusty aint going to do this. > > Dickerson > Phillips > Votto > Rolen > Bruce > Hernandez > Stubbs > Cabrera
From: HTP on 13 Apr 2010 13:12 On Apr 13, 7:08 am, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote: > This guy Cabrera can't make the play in the hole but he can hit homeruns > on fastballs near his chin. Weird player. > > Joey Votto better start to learn how to be more decisive defensively. > His botched play in the ninth inning would have cost them the game if > Cody Ross didn't swing at ball four. Votto has to know, you get that > second out no matter what in the ninth inning. You don't even look at > second base on that ball. Just run to first and get the second out. He > has amazing trouble throwing to pitchers covering first base. > > Another sloppy win. Positives Bruce 2 hits and Lincoln almost 2 innings > of non disaster work. Massett's ball was moving well topping out at 96. > Rolen 2 bombs and the bloop game winner. Bruce has been smoking the ball from the bell. He's seen more tha his share of tough luck so far. I'm waiting for him to elevate a few of those drives. > > In addition to Rolen's unexpected power, it is a pleasure to watch him > play defense. At least now we don't have to hold our breath every time a > throw is uncorked from third base.. It will be a gigantic boost to this club if Rolen has regained some of his power.
From: RJA on 13 Apr 2010 13:46 On Apr 13, 1:10 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 13, 8:31 am, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 13, 10:43 am, tom dunne <dunn...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 13, 10:08 am, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote: > > > > > In addition to Rolen's unexpected power, it is a pleasure to watch him > > > > play defense. At least now we don't have to hold our breath every time a > > > > throw is uncorked from third base.. > > > > Rolen is off to a good start. Why, it's almost as if he makes more > > > sense in the four hole than Babe Phillips! > > > Move Phillips to 2nd and tell him his new job is to get on base and do > > all those winning things that second hitters allegedly do. Cabrera > > can bat 8th. > > Do you really think that Phillips would be able to suddenly make > himself over as an OBP guy? I doubt that. I think he's more of a hacker because he's batting 4th. I guess it depends on how unselfish he can be. He's no Barry Larkin in that respect. He has shown that he can hit the other way, and maybe he'd be more patient in a different role. If nothing else, he has walked twice this year and Cabrera has yet to draw one. In fact, Cabrera's OBP is lower than his batting average! > If cabrera is going to be dropped to 8th, then they might as well just > start Janish. Bringing in a guy for his offensive ability and then > batting him 8th doesnt make all that much sense. He's still a better hitter than Janish no matter where you put him, but he looks slow in the field. There was an inning last night where 2 or 3 balls were hit his way that I think a good SS would have gotten to. They all went for singles and led to the plating of some runs.
From: HTP on 13 Apr 2010 15:55
On Apr 13, 10:46 am, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 13, 1:10 pm, HTP <tmbowma...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 8:31 am, RJA <agentvau...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 13, 10:43 am, tom dunne <dunn...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 13, 10:08 am, eddyg...(a)msn.com (john smith) wrote: > > > > > > In addition to Rolen's unexpected power, it is a pleasure to watch him > > > > > play defense. At least now we don't have to hold our breath every time a > > > > > throw is uncorked from third base.. > > > > > Rolen is off to a good start. Why, it's almost as if he makes more > > > > sense in the four hole than Babe Phillips! > > > > Move Phillips to 2nd and tell him his new job is to get on base and do > > > all those winning things that second hitters allegedly do. Cabrera > > > can bat 8th. > > > Do you really think that Phillips would be able to suddenly make > > himself over as an OBP guy? I doubt that. > > I think he's more of a hacker because he's batting 4th. I guess it > depends on how unselfish he can be. He's no Barry Larkin in that > respect. He has shown that he can hit the other way, and maybe he'd > be more patient in a different role. If nothing else, he has walked > twice this year and Cabrera has yet to draw one. In fact, Cabrera's > OBP is lower than his batting average! > > > If cabrera is going to be dropped to 8th, then they might as well just > > start Janish. Bringing in a guy for his offensive ability and then > > batting him 8th doesnt make all that much sense. > > He's still a better hitter than Janish no matter where you put him, > but he looks slow in the field. There was an inning last night where > 2 or 3 balls were hit his way that I think a good SS would have gotten > to. They all went for singles and led to the plating of some runs.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I was going to ask about that because i wasnt able to watch the game but did listen on the radio and I can recall at least 1 instance where the broadcaster implied that the ball just made it past cabrera. Were you able to watch the game. Did you see 2 or 3 balls go for hits that Janish probably gets to? I wish there were a website where i could watch every ball hit to the shortstop zone while cabrera is there and judge for myself whether a good fielder would have gotten to it. For those who are believers in zone ratings etc, i believe that Cabrera was ranked last in the majors last year by a wide margin. A long fall for a former gold glover. Janish was ranked near the top. Cabrera has led the American league in outs made the past 2 seasons. lets bat him 2nd!!! |