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From: David Short on 13 Dec 2009 14:20
"Jim Bowden, the Reds' general manager, declined to discuss the Yankees'
involvement, but an official familiar with the Wells talks said Steinbrenner
called Bowden Saturday night and offered pitcher Mariano Rivera and catcher
Jorge Posada.

Bowden, looking to cut his payroll, obviously decided he preferred Goodwin,
a 23-year-old left-handed hitter, who in 87 games with the Orioles last
season batted .263 and had 22 stolen bases in 26 attempts. "

Ouch.

Just Ouch.

From the Baseball Primer

Back in 1995 the Reds dumped Daved Wells salary for a useless Oriol minor
league centerfieler Curits Goodwin. Apparently the Yankees made a different
offer. Imagine the difference if the reds had taken that offer.

Jus Ouch.


From: HTP on 14 Dec 2009 12:43
On Dec 13, 11:20 am, "David Short"
<David.No.Sh...(a)Spam.Wright.Please.Edu> wrote:
> "Jim Bowden, the Reds' general manager, declined to discuss the Yankees'
> involvement, but an official familiar with the Wells talks said Steinbrenner
> called Bowden Saturday night and offered pitcher Mariano Rivera and catcher
> Jorge Posada.
>
> Bowden, looking to cut his payroll, obviously decided he preferred Goodwin,
> a 23-year-old left-handed hitter, who in 87 games with the Orioles last
> season batted .263 and had 22 stolen bases in 26 attempts. "
>
> Ouch.
>
> Just Ouch.
>
> From the Baseball Primer
>
> Back in 1995 the Reds dumped Daved Wells salary for a useless Oriol minor
> league centerfieler Curits Goodwin. Apparently the Yankees made a different
> offer. Imagine the difference if the reds had taken that offer.
>
> Jus Ouch.

This is from a NY Times dec 1995 sports article. It was also linked
this morning on Redleg Nation

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/27/sports/pro-baseball-the-rich-get-richer-as-orioles-get-wells.html?scp=1&sq=Rivera&st=nyt

At that point, Rivera was a struggling starter being converted to
setup man, and Posada put up an uninspiring .255/.350/.435 line at
AAA. Who knew.

Would they have put up similar career numbers had they been dealt to
the Reds? I'm going to speculate that they wouldnt come close. The
Reds would probably have spent several seasons fixated on keeping
Rivera in the rotation. Maybe he pans out, maybe not. Both players,
whether they had been succesful or not would probably have been gone
by 2001.


Steinbrenner = stupid when it comes to players.



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