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From: weheardthenews on 7 Dec 2009 21:12 On Dec 7, 1:27�pm, Will in New Haven <bill.re...(a)taylorandfrancis.com> wrote: > On Dec 7, 4:18�pm, weheardthenews <weheardthen...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 6:13 am, Will in New Haven <bill.re...(a)taylorandfrancis.com> > > wrote: > > > > On Dec 7, 8:01 am, Chic <chic_mur...(a)running.nowhere.com> wrote: > > > > > I suspect that Ialdabaoth created Imperfection so that on this day Sun, 6 Dec > > > > 2009 15:08:40 -0800 (PST), one purporting to be Will in New Haven > > > > <bill.re...(a)taylorandfrancis.com> could write : > > > > > >Ted Williams, in 1994, listed the twenty greatest hitters, in his > > > > >opinion, of all time. Here is the list: > > > > > >http://www.baseball-almanac.com/legendary/lited20.shtml > > > > > >Obviously, he meant best batters and not greatest hitters as that is > > > > >an objective question with an easy answer. However, it could form the > > > > >basis for a best batters discussion. > > > > > Teds last words, "Pete should be in the Hall of Fame." > > > > Ted once characterized Pete as a "banjo hitter." I have never seen > > > this used as a term of admiration. > > > > -- > > > Will in New Haven > > > Willy, did you really say that you're immune to identity theft, > > because no one would ever want to be you? �Makes sense. > > Did you really say "I have no arguments, no logic, no brains, all I > have to offer are insults. Please put Pete in the Hall or I will wave > my private parts at your auntie. and taunt you again." > > Ted Williams really called Pete Rose a banjo hitter. I didn't make > that up. He said some good thing about him also but "banjo hitter" and > the kind of all-time great player you say you think Pete Rose is don't > fit together very well. That simply indicates that Ted Williams was a walking contradiction. > > And it doesn't matter. If Pete Rose really were an all-time top-twenty- > five great baseball player it would not get him into the HoF. His > baseball career, even though it was not as good as you make it out to > be, was _obviously_ good enough to get him into the Hall. > > He isn't in because he _agreed_ to a lifetime ban for doing intensely > stupid things. Then the lifetime ban was connected to his eligibility > for the Hall, which it shouldn't have been. However, he has said he > won't _accept_ nomination to the Hall as long as he is banned, so > removing the Pete Rose rule would do no good. The lifetime ban has a > finite liffe. He will get in when he is dead. > > You have no answer to this. And you will prove it by being insulting > once again. > > -- > Will in New Haven > Pete Rose, the greatest hitter because he has the most Hits, will not > get into the Hall of Fame while he's alive.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Willy, did you really say that Marie Osmond and Osama bin Laden should get it on together? We suppose you'd want to join in and make it a threesome. Forget it, you'd just make a mess of everything.
From: Will in New Haven on 8 Dec 2009 09:13 On Dec 7, 5:04 pm, Lew Pitcher <LPitc...(a)techsavvy.ca> wrote: > Will in New Haven <bill.re...(a)taylorandfrancis.com> trolled: > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 8:01?am, Chic <chic_mur...(a)running.nowhere.com> wrote: > >> I suspect that Ialdabaoth created Imperfection so that on this day Sun, 6 Dec > >> 2009 15:08:40 -0800 (PST), one purporting to be Will in New Haven > >> <bill.re...(a)taylorandfrancis.com> could write : > > >> >Ted Williams, in 1994, listed the twenty greatest hitters, in his > >> >opinion, of all time. Here is the list: > > >> >http://www.baseball-almanac.com/legendary/lited20.shtml > > >> >Obviously, he meant best batters and not greatest hitters as that is > >> >an objective question with an easy answer. However, it could form the > >> >basis for a best batters discussion. > > >> Teds last words, "Pete should be in the Hall of Fame." > > > Ted once characterized Pete as a "banjo hitter." I have never seen > > this used as a term of admiration. > > Right. And Ted, without a single ring, played his entire career in > Fenway... And he's still, without a single ring, one of many players who were better than Pete Rose. Because, at no point in his career, had their careers been at the same time, would a sane manager think "I would rather have Pete Rose." By definition and without contradiction. -- Will in New Haven
From: Lew Pitcher on 9 Dec 2009 03:42 Will in New Haven <bill.reich(a)taylorandfrancis.com> trolled: > And he's still, without a single ring, one of many players who were > better than Pete Rose. Better? Well "better" is only a matter of opinion, by definition. > Because, at no point in his career, had their careers been at the > same time, would a sane manager think "I would rather have Pete > Rose." By definition and without contradiction. Right. You tried that with Frank Robinson, remember? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We got news for you sweets, Ted Williams would never have been Ted Williams if there had been no Fenway. In fact, since he wasn't good enough to play LF in any other park, and there was no DH, Ted Williams might never have existed. (Well, maybe 1st base...) cordially, even to the uninformed, rm
From: Will in New Haven on 9 Dec 2009 09:15 On Dec 9, 3:42 am, Lew Pitcher <LPitc...(a)techsavvy.ca> wrote: > Will in New Haven <bill.re...(a)taylorandfrancis.com> trolled: > > > And he's still, without a single ring, one of many players who were > > better than Pete Rose. > > Better? Well "better" is only a matter of opinion, by definition. > > > Because, at no point in his career, had their careers been at the > > same time, would a sane manager think "I would rather have Pete > > Rose." By definition and without contradiction. > > Right. You tried that with Frank Robinson, remember? > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > We got news for you sweets, Ted Williams would never have been Ted > Williams if there had been no Fenway. In fact, since he wasn't good > enough to play LF in any other park, and there was no DH, Ted > Williams might never have existed. (Well, maybe 1st base...) Williams played LF in other ballparks half the time. He was good enough that it didn't cost the Red Sox very many runs. When he was young, as he admitted himself with regret, he was very careless in his outfield play. And he played a lot of Right Field in his first couple of years. His carelessness was a shame as he had a good arm and he was very fast as a kid but he filled out and bulked up and became the older, heavier player remembered from the Fifties and Sixties. I saw him play both in Fenway and in the Mistake by the Lake in Cleveland when he was older and he was no disaster. If he had been they certainly would have moved him to First Base, because they rarely had a great-hitting First Baseman in his years, after Foxx left. They would play guys like Billy Gardner at the position. . It is doubtful that Fenway helped him much offensively, although it could have if he weren't so insistent on pulling the ball. And he was a much better fighter pilot than Pete Rose. -- Will in New Haven
From: Lew Pitcher on 9 Dec 2009 10:04
Will in New Haven <bill.reich(a)taylorandfrancis.com> trolled: > when he was older and he was no disaster. If he had been they > certainly would have moved him to First Base, because they rarely > had a great-hitting First Baseman in his years, after Foxx left. > They would play guys like Billy Gardner at the position. . Well, no, "they" wouldn't have been moving Ted Williams to first unless it was his idea. Nobody ever accused Teddy Ballgame of being a team player. > It is doubtful that Fenway helped him much offensively, although it > could have if he weren't so insistent on pulling the ball. He could not have played every day LF in any other park in the league, not if they expected to win. Oh, wait. They didn't win. > And he was a much better fighter pilot than Pete Rose. Yes, perhaps, but in a just plain fight, we would take Rose everytime. > Will in New Haven Is there an Old Haven? cordially, as always, rm |