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From: coachrose13 on 22 Jun 2007 02:44 On Jun 21, 6:10 pm, "RJA" <r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> wrote: > <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1182406425.344865.298200(a)q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 8:03 pm, "RJA" <r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> wrote: > >> <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1182233576.313164.101440(a)n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > >> > On Jun 18, 1:22 pm, Ron Johnson <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote: > >> >> On Jun 17, 4:20 pm, Kevin McClave <kmcclaveS...(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com> > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:39:52 -0700, coachros...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > >> >> > > Cant find no one here worth arguing with who thinks striking > >> >> > > out 200 times a year is insignicant. Hell, the Reds worked with > >> >> > > Dunn all preseason to try to get him to cut down on his strikouts, > >> >> > > even Adam says he needs to reduce his strikouts. > > >> >> No surprise. I know Mike Schmidt and Gary Sheffield have said > >> >> similar things -- and meant it. Players do not like to > >> >> strike out. > > >> >> WHY? Because they understand that hitting the ball is better than not > >> >> hitting it? > > >> >> > > I guess statheads > >> >> > > know more than the oranization or players do, huh? > > >> >> > Absolutely. That's one reason they haven't been to the playoffs in > >> >> > more > >> >> > than a decade. > > >> > And the teams that have made it to the playoffs refer to stats alone, > >> > and not flesh and blood ballplayers to make them successful? > > >> This one of the oldest and dumbest arguments out there. That a guy has > >> heart, therefore he has some value despite the fact that his numbers > >> don't > >> say so. It's like the whole "Duh...well he doesn't hit with runners in > >> scoring position." Then you ask them where that got Sean Casey who was a > >> "team leader" and "had a lot of heart" and who hit with RISP and has > >> never > >> driven in 100 runs. The numbers are everything.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Yeah, just get rid of Casey and replace him with..........???? Who is > > this first baseman they now have that is driving in a hundred runs a > > year, and hitting 40 home runs?? > > Nothing to do with using Casey as an example. But nice try at diversion.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I believe you were the one who brought up Casey to begin with, while at the same time you were trying to put words in my mouth. When did I ever mention the word 'heart"??
From: coachrose13 on 22 Jun 2007 02:46 On Jun 21, 6:13 pm, "RJA" <r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> wrote: > <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1182402237.392453.85230(a)k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 8:47 pm, Dan Szymborski <d...(a)baseballprimer.com> wrote: > >> In article <46786d44$0$3184$4c368...(a)roadrunner.com>, > >> r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com says... > > >> > <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> >news:1182232430.439733.92220(a)k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >> > > This thread is now somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 posts. I dont > >> > > feel like going back and specifing who said what and when, check it > >> > > out yourself. Its been sugested many times and even "proven" through > >> > > "stats" that strikeouts are overrated. Adam Dunn I believe, holds, > >> > > the > >> > > major league record for most times having struck out in a season, and > >> > > is pretty close to his own record at least a couple of other times. > >> > > If > >> > > that is the case, please tell me who would bat behind Dunn that would > >> > > strike out more than HE would??? And I really tire of hearing obout > >> > > Dunn's walks and how important they are. Are ALL, or even MOST of > >> > > these walks intentional? I dont think so. Dunn doesnt have a whole > >> > > lot > >> > > of say so about most of these walks, it is usually up to the pitcher > >> > > who either decides to pitch to the batter, or does not have good > >> > > enough control to begin with. > > >> > Oh my Lord. Just when you thought we had already hit rock bottom, we > >> > find > >> > out that there's no such thing as a good eye. > > >> Yeah, Coachrose, while not skilled at flaming, has packed 3 or 4 years > >> of stupid into only 3 or 4 weeks. > > >> I guess If I am as stupid as you and a couple of others say I am, and > >> are as smart(or at the very least skilled in the art of undestanding > >> stats) as you seem to think you are, then what's that old saying >>about > >> arguing with an idiot? (Not trying to flame or anything of course). > > Oh, you're under the impression that we're arguing with you?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Naw, at this point, probably being insulted more than argued with.
From: coachrose13 on 22 Jun 2007 02:55
On Jun 21, 7:19 pm, Dan Szymborski <d...(a)baseballprimer.com> wrote: > In article <1182402237.392453.85...(a)k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > coachros...(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 8:47 pm, Dan Szymborski <d...(a)baseballprimer.com> wrote: > > > In article <46786d44$0$3184$4c368...(a)roadrunner.com>, > > > r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com says... > > > > > <coachros...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:1182232430.439733.92220(a)k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > > > > This thread is now somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 posts. I dont > > > > > feel like going back and specifing who said what and when, check it > > > > > out yourself. Its been sugested many times and even "proven" through > > > > > "stats" that strikeouts are overrated. Adam Dunn I believe, holds, the > > > > > major league record for most times having struck out in a season, and > > > > > is pretty close to his own record at least a couple of other times. If > > > > > that is the case, please tell me who would bat behind Dunn that would > > > > > strike out more than HE would??? And I really tire of hearing obout > > > > > Dunn's walks and how important they are. Are ALL, or even MOST of > > > > > these walks intentional? I dont think so. Dunn doesnt have a whole lot > > > > > of say so about most of these walks, it is usually up to the pitcher > > > > > who either decides to pitch to the batter, or does not have good > > > > > enough control to begin with. > > > > > Oh my Lord. Just when you thought we had already hit rock bottom, we find > > > > out that there's no such thing as a good eye. > > > > Yeah, Coachrose, while not skilled at flaming, has packed 3 or 4 years > > > of stupid into only 3 or 4 weeks. > > > > I guess If I am as stupid as you and a couple of others say I am, and are as smart(or at the very least skilled in the art of undestanding stats) > > as you seem to think you are, then what's that old saying about arguing with an idiot? (Not trying to flame or anything of course). > > I mean, think about it. What could possible be more stupid than > > CONTINUALLING arguing with someone about wether to bat a ballplayer in > > the 4, 5, or 6 hole on a team that is 20 games below .500 in JUNE! For > > my part, I plead guilty. Do you? > > Well, you're either being stupid or being deceitful. It's your choice. > > And yes, there's a saying about arguing with an idiot. But we're not > arguing with you, we're mocking you. We're all at the carnival of ideas > and gawking at the freakshow. > > -- > Dan Szymborski > d...(a)baseballprimer.REMOVE.com > > "A critic who refuses to attack what is bad is > not a whole-hearted supporter of what is good." > - Robert Schumann- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Now you may be mocking me, but youve been arguing for a loooooooong time. Look at the number of posts. And of course, I would be be surprised if at this point you and your two or three other buddies would admit to being an idiot by arguing with one, so its easier to change the defintion to "mocking" . |