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From: RJA on 5 Jun 2007 21:03 "Ron Johnson" <johnson(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message news:1181090661.365298.68440(a)o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 5, 6:40 pm, "RJA" <r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> wrote: >> "Ron Johnson" <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message >> > >> > (A player's actual RBI total is actually a function of power and >> > opportunity and can be radically different from the number >> > Mann's formula predicts. Similarly a player's run total is >> > profoundly influenced by the guys batting after him) >> >> So in the case of a 1985 Tommy Herr, we attribute the 110 RBI to >> opportunity >> mostly, rather than power, right? > > Mostly. Given a typical distribution of baserunners you'd > have expected about 75 RBI from a guy with his BA and isolated > power (SLG-BA) > >> IIRC he had 8 home runs, but Coleman and >> McGee were pretty much in scoring position half the time that he came to >> the >> plate. > > 185 AB with RISP. That's a lot. He wasn't awesome with RISP either. > .335/.409/.454 > > 62 hits, 2 bases loaded walks and 13 sac flies produced > 98 of his RBI. > > That's really unusual. Most people think a single > with RISP is an RBI, but a fairly high percentage > of the time (I think Dan has a more recent breakdown, > but I know about 1/3 of the time on a single to > left or right a runner on second won't score. They will if their name is Coleman or McGee. I think Ozzie even batted 8th ahead of him.
From: RJA on 5 Jun 2007 21:04 "Ron Johnson" <johnson(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message news:1181089386.021099.15750(a)p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 5, 2:18 pm, "Steve M. Mann" <rockerm...(a)LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> > wrote: >> On 6/5/2007 12:17 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> > About 30 years ago Steve Mann broke down the various >> > offensive events into their run and rbi components. >> >> I did no such thing. I was still learning to drive at the time and >> underachieving in Math classes. > > If you become a card-carrying stathead you'll be asked > to get a professional name. Out of curiosity, what is it that you do? Is this a profession for you? If so, what is your title?
From: Ron Johnson on 5 Jun 2007 21:14 On Jun 5, 9:04 pm, "RJA" <r...(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> wrote: > "Ron Johnson" <john...(a)ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message > > news:1181089386.021099.15750(a)p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jun 5, 2:18 pm, "Steve M. Mann" <rockerm...(a)LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> > > wrote: > >> On 6/5/2007 12:17 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> [...] > > >> > About 30 years ago Steve Mann broke down the various > >> > offensive events into their run and rbi components. > > >> I did no such thing. I was still learning to drive at the time and > >> underachieving in Math classes. > > > If you become a card-carrying stathead you'll be asked > > to get a professional name. > > Out of curiosity, what is it that you do? UNIX systems administrator. > Is this a profession for you? Very few people have made a living out of this. I'm not among them. I've written a few published articles (mostly for Don Malcolm) but it's come to a couple of hundred bucks. I'm probably not tempermentally suited to making it a profession. I work on what interests me at the moment. For every study I've written up there are at least 20 that I started and got bored with. > If so, what is your title?
From: Chuck on 5 Jun 2007 22:11 "John Kasupski" <kc2hmz(a)wzrd.com> wrote in message news:nhq663h7ibu052nclq6cga2mpebcknffer(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 20:56:03 -0400, "RJA" <rja(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> > wrote: > >>Here's what we can agree on. Across the board, it evens out because most >>on-base situations are runner on first situations. However, many of the >>remaining situations dictate that contact is better than a K. Are we all >>on >>the same page then? > > Even if there is a runner on first, while a walk might be as good as a > single, nobody ever hit a two-run dinger by standing there watching > the ball smack into the catcher's mitt. Same goes for doubles and > triples. The only way to do that is to swing the bat. Which, if you're > not going to do that, why bother carrying it up there with you? > > John D, Kasupski, Tonawanda, NY > Reds Fan Since The 1960's > http://www.kc2hmz.net > Got that one right. He hits monster HRs but I would rather have somebody that puts the ball in play, sure as hell not doing us any good this year.
From: RJA on 5 Jun 2007 22:26
"Chuck" <chuckw417(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:ZIo9i.14489$%T3.2702(a)bignews8.bellsouth.net... > > "John Kasupski" <kc2hmz(a)wzrd.com> wrote in message > news:nhq663h7ibu052nclq6cga2mpebcknffer(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 20:56:03 -0400, "RJA" <rja(a)nospam.cinci.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Here's what we can agree on. Across the board, it evens out because most >>>on-base situations are runner on first situations. However, many of the >>>remaining situations dictate that contact is better than a K. Are we all >>>on >>>the same page then? >> >> Even if there is a runner on first, while a walk might be as good as a >> single, nobody ever hit a two-run dinger by standing there watching >> the ball smack into the catcher's mitt. Same goes for doubles and >> triples. The only way to do that is to swing the bat. Which, if you're >> not going to do that, why bother carrying it up there with you? >> >> John D, Kasupski, Tonawanda, NY >> Reds Fan Since The 1960's >> http://www.kc2hmz.net >> > > Got that one right. He hits monster HRs but I would rather have somebody > that puts the ball in play, sure as hell not doing us any good this year. But he has more Runs or RBI than anyone else. How can that be the case and he's not helping the team? Stat geeks, who's got the numbers on guys who score 100 and drive in 100 year in and year out? How many are there? |