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From: Kevin McClave on 3 Jun 2007 15:16 On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:32:52 -0400, John Kasupski <kc2hmz(a)wzrd.com> wrote: >On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:06:52 -0400, Kevin McClave ><kmcclaveSPAM(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com> wrote: >>It doesn't matter to any large degree if someone Ks or grounds out or >>flies out in their 60% (or higher for most players) of outs. >> >>Are there individual instances where a certain type of out is preferable? >>Sure, but what's been trying to be articulated here is that it balances >>out over the long haul...for every K with a runner on third, there a >>grounder to 2B with a runner on 1B for a tailor made DP...as someone >>pointed out, man on first is a much more common occurrences. > >...AND unless that guy on first walked or was HBP, he presumably got >there because (altogether now, class) he put the ball in play! :-) That's circular logic. Guys are going to get on base at a 40% clip if they're the best. That was a given in my point. ****************************************************************** Kevin McClave "To justify himself, each relies on the other's crime." ~Albert Camus ******************************************************************
From: RJA on 3 Jun 2007 17:13 "Kevin McClave" <kmcclaveSPAM(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com> wrote in message news:uk4663dbgntr25h0kaj0ar0muv0t5arp4f(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:32:52 -0400, John Kasupski <kc2hmz(a)wzrd.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 07:06:52 -0400, Kevin McClave >><kmcclaveSPAM(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com> wrote: >>>It doesn't matter to any large degree if someone Ks or grounds out or >>>flies out in their 60% (or higher for most players) of outs. >>> >>>Are there individual instances where a certain type of out is preferable? >>>Sure, but what's been trying to be articulated here is that it balances >>>out over the long haul...for every K with a runner on third, there a >>>grounder to 2B with a runner on 1B for a tailor made DP...as someone >>>pointed out, man on first is a much more common occurrences. >> >>...AND unless that guy on first walked or was HBP, he presumably got >>there because (altogether now, class) he put the ball in play! :-) > > That's circular logic. Guys are going to get on base at a 40% clip if > they're the best. That was a given in my point. Maybe a 41% clip if some of their Ks turn into contact.
From: Dan Szymborski on 3 Jun 2007 18:29 In article <me7563p96eetukt0eutv8147jmtqau9tpj(a)4ax.com>, kmcclaveSPAM(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com says... > On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:10:28 -0700, coachrose13(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > >traditional wisdom is almost always correct. > > That's simply not true. I totally believe that bloodletting is a great source of medicine and a heavier-than-air vehicle cannot fly. -- Dan Szymborski dan(a)baseballprimer.REMOVE.com "A critic who refuses to attack what is bad is not a whole-hearted supporter of what is good." - Robert Schumann
From: John Kasupski on 3 Jun 2007 19:01 On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:16:15 -0400, Kevin McClave <kmcclaveSPAM(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com> wrote: >Guys are going to get on base at a 40% clip if >they're the best. That was a given in my point. They're not going to get on base at a 40% clip by keeping the bat on their shoulders.
From: Kevin McClave on 3 Jun 2007 19:31
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:01:16 -0400, John Kasupski <kc2hmz(a)wzrd.com> wrote: >On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:16:15 -0400, Kevin McClave ><kmcclaveSPAM(a)SUCKStwcny.rr.com> wrote: > >>Guys are going to get on base at a 40% clip if >>they're the best. That was a given in my point. > >They're not going to get on base at a 40% clip by keeping the bat on >their shoulders. Hey, think what you want. ****************************************************************** Kevin McClave "To justify himself, each relies on the other's crime." ~Albert Camus ****************************************************************** |