From: HTP on
On Sep 21, 9:53 am, David Short
<David.no.Sh...(a)Spam.Wright.Please.edu> wrote:
> HTP wrote:
> > On Sep 20, 8:00 pm, Zuke <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Bob Braun wrote:
>
> >> Doc wants Dickerson to have the spot.  I admit that Dickerson has shown
> >> some flashes but he's three years older than Stubbs.  Speedwise I think
> >> Stubbs has the edge.  Plus Dickerson hasn't proved too reliable with the
> >> injuries.  However, it might be best to just have them dual it out.
> >> But knowing Dusty, Traveres will probably be starting out there.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > With the good showing by Stubbs (at least in my opinion) and my recent
> > understanding that Dickerson may have been just lucky in his hitting
> > this season, i've sort of soured on Dickerson as a likely starter for
> > 2010. But i'll take anyone not named Tavares.
>
> What drove you to the conclusion that Dickerson has been lucky this season?
>

He's a guy who strikes out alot, doesnt get an inordinate number of
infield hits, doesnt have warning track power, nor is his name used in
the same sentence with "frozen rope" very often. Yet he hits .362 on
balls in play. By comparison there are only 3 regulars in the league
who are hitting better than that. David Wright, Hanley Ramirez, and
Michael Bourn. You know about the first 2 guys, and Bourn gets a ton
of infield hits.
From: David Short on
HTP wrote:
> On Sep 21, 9:53 am, David Short
>>> With the good showing by Stubbs (at least in my opinion) and my recent
>>> understanding that Dickerson may have been just lucky in his hitting
>>> this season, i've sort of soured on Dickerson as a likely starter for
>>> 2010. But i'll take anyone not named Tavares.
>> What drove you to the conclusion that Dickerson has been lucky this season?
>>
>
> He's a guy who strikes out alot, doesnt get an inordinate number of
> infield hits, doesnt have warning track power, nor is his name used in
> the same sentence with "frozen rope" very often. Yet he hits .362 on
> balls in play. By comparison there are only 3 regulars in the league
> who are hitting better than that. David Wright, Hanley Ramirez, and
> Michael Bourn. You know about the first 2 guys, and Bourn gets a ton
> of infield hits.

His Bapip is out of line.

Hmm. I'm still on the fence about Dickerson. I believe that between
Stubbs/Dickerson and Bruce they have 2/3 of the outfield for next year
and have two slot for LF/spare outfielder.

I don't know that Dickerson can stay healthy.
I don't know think that Dickerson hits as well as his major league
record would warrant.

OTOH, given a choice of centerfielders...I'm afraid that the front
office would go "invest" in somebody like the virus and I don't want THAT.

dfs
From: HTP on
On Sep 21, 11:47 am, David Short
<David.no.Sh...(a)Spam.Wright.Please.edu> wrote:
> HTP wrote:
> > On Sep 21, 9:53 am, David Short
> >>> With the good showing by Stubbs (at least in my opinion) and my recent
> >>> understanding that Dickerson may have been just lucky in his hitting
> >>> this season, i've sort of soured on Dickerson as a likely starter for
> >>> 2010. But i'll take anyone not named Tavares.
> >> What drove you to the conclusion that Dickerson has been lucky this season?
>
> > He's a guy who strikes out alot, doesnt get an inordinate number of
> > infield hits, doesnt have warning track power, nor is his name used in
> > the same sentence with "frozen rope" very often. Yet he hits .362 on
> > balls in play. By comparison there are only 3 regulars in the league
> > who are hitting better than that. David Wright, Hanley Ramirez, and
> > Michael Bourn. You know about the first 2 guys, and Bourn gets a ton
> > of infield hits.
>
> His Bapip is out of line.
>
> Hmm. I'm still on the fence about Dickerson. I believe that between
> Stubbs/Dickerson and Bruce they have 2/3 of the outfield for next year
> and have two slot for LF/spare outfielder.

Agreed. those 3 are cheap and adequate, and 2 of them realistically
havent reached thier ceiling yet. Bringing back Gomes would make alot
of sense, especially if neither Dickerson nor Bruce show they can
handle lefties. That would leave basically 1 OF spot. Theyre on the
hook for 4 mil for Tavares so he's likely the guy. The front office
can address a mistake and earn a bit of respect from fans if they'd
just release that guy.

I dont know what to make of Balentien yet. His numbers are skewed by
alot of walks. You guys that watch the games regularly probably have a
better sense of him. I predict he'll turn into Laynce Nix and float
just under the threshhold of acceptibilty.

My prediction for the 2010 opening day outfield is: Balentien/Tavares/
Bruce.


>
> I don't know that Dickerson can stay healthy.
> I don't know think that Dickerson hits as well as his major league
> record would warrant.
>
> OTOH, given a choice of centerfielders...I'm afraid that the front
> office would go "invest" in somebody like the virus and I don't want THAT..

They have so many in-house candidates, both at the ML level and
waiting at AAA, and are budget-constrained as it is, that I cant see
them going after a free agent outfielder. i think coughing up the cash
even to bring back Gomes might be a stretch, and this assumes that his
price will be reasonable.

They need to figure out what to do at SS and keep the pitching staff
from falling apart. Thats where i'd put the cash.

A judicious trade or two could change all of this.




From: john smith on
I wish people would stop saying Darnell Macdonald was your opening day
centerfielder like he was the guy who was going to start a majority of
the games. No, Taveras had the flu and MacDonald was their to sub. The
reason he was on the roster was he was going to be a part-time player
and not warrant a whole lot of at bats. The management obviously wanted
Gomes to get at-bats, That is why he went south.....But then again Gomes
could have walked and not accepted the AAA demotion. Management is
horrible!!

We all knew at the time this was the most idiotic move the team could
make but hey it is the Reds we are talking about here.....

As far as Adam Dunn is concerned his nickname should be the "GHOST". He
seems to disappear and reappear off and on in a line up over the course
of a season. But I just think he disappears more often then he does
appear. He can carry a team for 2 weeks but then be invisible for 6
weeks. His swing can be downright ugly. I don't think you can ever count
on him for a big hit against a premiere closer. Sure he is a freak, but
he is a player who signed for 40 percent less for what he was making
with the Reds after averaging 40 homers a year. Man, them other GMS must
have been really stupid?

John K don't you know your not entitled to an opinion. Twenty-Nine other
General Managers and you must be really dumb. Come on John, say yes we
can, yes we can.You have to believe in Adam Dunn. The Reds would have
been a playoff team with him. You have to realize that OBP percentage of
Adam Dunn makes him a Hall Of Famer. He really is a difference maker, he
turns mediocre teams into playoff teams. He adds those certain
intangibles like leadership, hustle and a winning attitude to every team
he has played on. His base running and defense are stellar weapons! We
all have must have missed these great attributes on Sir Adam...

Question for all the Dunn supporters if he hits 600 homeruns in his
career, and hits .260 career wise. and never wins a playoff game. Is he
a Hall Of Famer?...Why does Dunn's homeruns never really turn into big
RBI numbers? If he hits 40+ homers a year, I always thought 125 RBIS
plus should follow? Dunn always just barely gets 100?

From: john smith on
Hey Braunie, do you like that Michigan fight song? You gotta love
Michigan and Notre Dame for their fight songs right?

If my memory serves me correct didn't Michigan once have an infield that
included Sabo, Morris and Larkin. I could have misremembered though.
Love that new word lawyers love to have their clients parrot ,
MISREMEMBER... Hey Roger...........

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